Quoting again from the Barna Group. So yes, let us do better. That is the issue. (NRSV Luke 24: 32). It may not be telling the teenagers that Old Testament events need not have happened for faith in the resurrection to stand. The evidence for the trustworthiness of the witnesses of the resurrection is too interwoven with the evidence for the inerrancy of the whole Bible. Luke 24:13-35. Humans held the quill, but God ultimately inspired their words. In the recent sermon, Stanley was making the point that the children’s song, “Jesus loves me, this I know, for the Bible tells me so,” is an inadequate foundation for faith as students head off to college. Tae', Source: Jabini 2015Loren Bliese (UBS)Reiling / Swellengrebel (UBS Helps for Translators) 1971, Reiling / Swellengrebel (UBS Helps for Translators) 1971. It was their immediate contact with that personality, and the mysterious outflow of His life upon them, that stirred them as only personality can do, and moved their nature to its very depths. The functions of our heart. But let me challenge young preachers to be aware of the limitations of this approach and to test it against their own view of the nature of faith and its necessary grounds. . Then, he devotes the lion’s share of his message to giving historical arguments for the credibility of the New Testament writers. That is a long-tested apologetic method for helping people come to a well-grounded faith. This is in part due to the introspective and poetic approaches the group takes towards dealing with topics such as depression, love and urbanization. That is how people came to faith. If that is what he is doing, I think he is right, because I doubt that the vast majority of human beings have ever been so postmodern that they don’t care about whether something really happened or not, and how we can know. I want to get a conversation started as we begin this morning by asking a question. It also says in the song, "There is so much at stake Seems our freedom's up Against the ropes", this is definetly talking about communism vs the freedom in the US. It was the Christ who was behind the word. I say “grounds,” rather than “ground,” because there are different kinds of grounds: like historical facts, true interpretation of those facts, understanding of that interpretation, the Holy Spirit’s illumination, and more. I am happy for this emphasis on the historicity and verifiability of the bodily resurrection of Jesus. It may be a richly relational engagement with the best arguments for the truth of all Scripture between the ages of 13 and 18. What that better looks like is what this article is about. . The question “Who wrote the Bible?” has a double answer: God and man. But as part of his defense of the resurrection, he insists that some other events recorded in the Bible need not have happened for the resurrection to still be true. all the Bible is true.”, Such a notion is “unfortunate and . Here’s what I mean. It is different from the Quran. That’s true. In Sranan Tongo, when one says ‘my heart is burning’ he means ‘I am angry. Whom can we trust to tell us? You can see this in 2 Corinthians 4:4: “The god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.” Satan’s aim is not primarily to keep people from believing Jesus rose from the dead. Stanley knows that there are believers who doubt some of the events in the Bible. Close to half our population does not view the Bible as authoritative either. Stanley’s argument from how Peter and Paul preached differently in different contexts in Acts is compelling. It is the divine word, not just the historical event, where the glory shines. His aim is primarily to keep people from seeing “the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ.” There is a spiritual “light” that shines through the gospel, and it is the light of the “glory of Christ.” This is what a person must see if he is to be saved. '” (Source: Janini 2015, p. 33) So for anyone out there who is still a bit suspicious, I affirm The Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy. Putting Jesus at the Center. If you don’t believe that, perhaps you have never seen such preaching. I suppose in my own preaching I have most regularly said, “Paul says,” or “Matthew wrote,” or “Jesus said.”. . A New Beginning (Part 3) Scott Bayles, pastor Blooming Grove Christian Church: 4/20/14 I just want to take a moment to thank everyone for choosing to spend Easter morning with us here at the Grove. Saving faith is not the persuasion that the resurrection of Jesus rose bodily from the grave. I am asking you to question whether his alternative to what he is rejecting is the best alternative. For example, when Peter preached in Acts 2 to the Jewish crowds on the day of Pentecost, he explicitly cites Scripture and its authors. “Were not our hearts burning within us … while He was explaining the Scriptures to us?” (Luke 24:32 NASB) FACT-BASED BIBLE STUDIES! Jesus loves you, this I know, because a Pharisee who hated Christians, who was going to arrest Christians, who was going to singlehandedly stop the Jesus movement, became a Jesus-follower and risked his life traveling all around the Gentile, Mediterranean rim to make sure that you’d know. He mentions, for example, the splitting of the sea at the exodus and the falling of the walls of Jericho. And if the Bible isn’t true, Christianity comes tumbling down. When it comes to preaching, nothing is more powerful and self-authenticating than the Spirit-anointed, passionate, expository exultation over the inspired text of Scripture. Reference after reference, their eyes were opened to … But I suggest that sometime through that long dark night, the burning in the bones of the prophet, the word of God, triumphed over the tremblings of his heart. If you were stranded on a deserted island, what three things would you take with you? They saw the glory of Christ shining through the writings God had given — or the oral heralding or reading of them. That is, the decisive cause of saving faith is not human argument (as crucial as that is). . It is a God-given narrative of what the events meant (as in 1 Corinthians 15:3, “for our sins”). Suddenly Jesus appears to us, fires are set ablaze, and we are given wonderful visions; but then we must learn to maintain the secret of the burning heart— a heart that can go through anything. So Stanley is suggesting that we not quote the Bible as “Bible” but rather refer to its contents by citing its authors along with some historical context that lends credibility to what the author says. Last night and this morning I had two different men text me with loving and encouraging messages. For post-Christians, common sense, science, philosophy and reason are the go-tos for worldviews and decision-making. I would like to put them as questions for younger preachers to seriously consider. It comes in precious solitude. My question, nevertheless, is how Stanley fleshes out the following statement: I’m absolutely convinced of the following: In the marketplace — not the church — in the public square, in the classroom, we must shift the debate away from whether the entire Bible is true and focus the debate on whether Jesus rose from the dead. But what Paul focuses on is “the gospel” — “the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ.” The gospel is more than the events of crucifixion and resurrection. Jesus was instructing the two disciples to what the Law and the Prophets taught in the Old Testament. 2) Nor am I defending any particular way of referring to biblical authority when you preach (“The Bible says” or “God’s word says”). It is inspired by the 1877 painting The Road to Emmaus by Robert Zünd and the passage in the Gospel of Luke ((24:13-35), in which the disciples who have met the risen Jesus testify: "Was not our heart burning … . He claims, “Even if those events never occurred, it does nothing to undermine the evidence supporting the resurrection of Jesus and thus the claims he made about himself.”, Holding to our faith in the risen Christ, we should not believe, “Everything rises and falls on whether . .”. It is not merely the assembly of events and evidences. What set their hearts ablaze — in the language of Augustine, what captivated their affections — was an interpretation of Scripture that put Jesus and his finished work front and center. He said that the blood of the Ephesians was not on his hands because he “did not shrink from declaring to you the whole counsel of God” (Acts 20:27). In early 2012, Burning Hearts released their second album titled Extinctions, which featured a number of popular songs, including Into the Wilderness.In May 2017, the band’s third album Battlefields was released. Burning Hearts are a Finnish dream pop band formed in 2006 by Jessika Rapo and Henry Ojala. Stanley observes that what was common to all these sermons was the reality of the resurrection of Jesus from the dead. In fact, one of his reasons for responding to his critics was to make clear his commitment to the authority and inerrancy of the Bible: I believe the Bible is without error in everything it affirms. . Many Bible-rejecters have testified to such an experience. Rather, what I am suggesting is that Stanley’s view might rescue a doubting believer, and at the same time establish in churches and families a view of the Bible which undermines the faith of the next five generations. Christianity is the reason the Bible was created. For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ” (Galatians 1:11–12). He explained why so many young people leave the faith like this: Like most of us, they aren’t exactly on a truth quest either. To a hungry heart, the Bible becomes the ultimate feast—and the fuel to follow Christ for a lifetime. (See Luke 24; my source for this interpretation is here.) If you’re trying to reach people with an undergraduate degree or greater, over half your target audience will not be moved by the Bible says, the Bible teaches, God’s Word is clear or anything along those lines. Nobody wants to appear that shallow. It is seen with “the eyes of your hearts” (Ephesians 1:18), when the Holy Spirit lifts the veil from our minds (2 Corinthians 3:16). He has important things to teach us, and I was helped by reading his rejoinder to his critics. the Bible exists because of the Christian faith. It is not preached in vain — especially not when, in the hands of a Spirit-filled preacher, the truth and beauty of its depths and heights are spoken with clarity and conviction for what they really are. However, those who are familiar with their sound have been deeply touched by it. Jesus loves you, this I know, for Luke, who thoroughly investigated the events, wrote them down meticulously, and interviewed eyewitnesses, made sure it was so. for the Bible tells me so.” It implies that the depth and breadth and beauties of God’s inspired word will be so richly unfolded and applied to the consciences of the hearers, in the power of the Spirit, that people will encounter the living God, self-authenticated in his word. That is the essence of saving faith. . Second, it implies that God’s portrait of Christ, as he is presented in the inspired Book, is the God-ordained means of creating saving faith. These were the words of two of Jesus' followers after they recognized that they had encountered the risen Jesus on that famous road to Emmaus story. (his italics), The implication he draws for preaching is to put the events and stories in the foreground and the Bible (understood as an authoritative book) in the background. A Burning Heart I know this will upset many Christians, but my heart burns within me because our pulpits have deceived so many people into thinking that their dead faith will save them ( … After the two traveling disciples talk with the resurrected Jesus, they describe their hearts as “burning within us” (Luke 24:32). When faith is viewed as an impediment to happiness, goodbye faith. Understand the meaning of Luke 24:32 using all available Bible versions and commentary. Post-Christian ‘nones’ have a low tolerance for faith-based answers to fact-based questions. Spiritual Heart Surgery. Therefore, Stanley points out how the Bible itself shows that Peter and Paul used Scripture differently when preaching in different contexts. The Holy Spirit creates the passion of God in our hearts. We’re on a mission to change that. What young preachers need to be clear about in deciding how they will preach is how God planned for the glory of Christ to be revealed to more and more people as the centuries pass. A second question young preachers should ask is whether Stanley’s way of trying to rescue one generation might result in losing the next five. . . . This presents a unique challenge for us in terms of apologetics and evangelism. “Burning hearts are what we need today; burning hearts for those who’ve gone astray. So instead of saying, “Jesus loves me, this I know, for the Bible tells me so,” it is more helpful, according to Stanley, to say something like the following: Jesus loves you, this you know for John, who watched him die and had breakfast with him on the beach, tells you so. Who can tell us this with authority? . Second, Stanley argues that putting biblical authority in the background and putting the resurrection in the foreground is founded on Scripture itself. Third, I would encourage young preachers to think seriously whether the way Stanley works out his method inside and outside the church is best for the health and power of the church over, say, a century. And events in general. Third, it implies that preaching that hopes to be used by God to create saving faith will not assume that there is a more compelling portrait of the glory of Christ behind the text of the New Testament, in the historical reconstructions of the preacher. Because the only way to defend the Christian faith is to defend the Bible. After the apostles receive the Spirit at Pentecost, they have a passion that lasts a lifetime and impels them to speak the word of God boldly (Acts 4:31). The essence of saving faith is seeing the supreme beauty of Christ in the meaning of the event, and embracing him as Savior, and Lord, and the greatest Treasure in the universe. . [Some argue that] if the entire Bible isn’t true, the Bible isn’t true. the Bible exists because of the Christian faith. He says that about eight years ago he changed his method of preaching: As part of my shift, I stopped leveraging the authority of Scripture and began leveraging the authority and stories of the people behind the Scripture. The church realized immediately that everything hung not just on whether the event happened, but on what it meant: What were its roots, and accomplishments, and implications for life and eternity? He is author of. 32 They asked each other, “Were not our hearts burning within us while he talked with us on the road and opened the Scriptures to us?” Read full chapter Cross references (Note: Andy and I corresponded about this article before publication. That’s never a presenting reason. Jesus loves you, this we know because his original followers were martyred believing it was so. Before the Old and New Testaments were combined and titled “The Bible,” Christianity had already replaced the pantheon of Roman, barbarian, and most Egyptian gods and was the state religion of the Roman Empire. . So too does the perception that the Bible is actually harmful and that people who live by its principles are religious extremists. . Hence, instead of “Jesus loves me, this I know, for the Bible tells me so,” we say something like, “Jesus loves me, this I know for John, who watched him die and had breakfast with him on the beach, tells me so.”. First, with regard to culture, he cites the Barna Group that “48 percent of Americans qualify as ‘post-Christian.’” This is different from “non-Christian.” The post-Christian “has been there, done that, and has a closetful of camp T-shirts to show for it. Which means — and I’m sure Stanley would agree — that the issues in the family and in the youth ministry are not only epistemological, but deeply personal and spiritual and relational. So yes, the flames on the Sacred Heart are a true reminder of God’s burning love for us. I am encouraging every young preacher to think this through very carefully. The love of Christ possesses some of the same nature as fire: it burns with ardor, and it burns in order to illuminate the darkness of our hearts and to warm the coldness of our selfishness. Behind this shift in what authority will be “leveraged” is the historical conviction that “the Christian faith does not exist because of the Bible (any more than you exist because of your birth certificate).” Rather. Burning Hearts presents my ongoing personal journey into Sacred Scripture. . It’s surprising because what he wants to foreground is the reality of events behind the Bible. This third foundation of Stanley’s approach to preaching has a surprising twist. Therefore, what I am suggesting is that in our present New Testament we have the consummation of God’s demonstration of the beauty and worth of Christ. To provide evidence for that faith-grounding event, the preacher goes behind the Book and refers to historical arguments for the credibility of the witnesses and the factuality of the event. Christ has not only saved us from the wrath of God, but transformed us and saved us from the sinful nature that destined us for that wrath. The Word began to prove itself true. They are more prepared to be broken and given for others. . absolutely unnecessary.” Unfortunate because “it is next to impossible to defend the entire Bible.” Unnecessary because the resurrection still stands, and “if you believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ, that’s all I need to know. Finally, I would encourage younger preachers not to blow off what Andy Stanley says. Most people in the world have no experience of lasting joy in their lives. If worship is going to set our hearts on fire, it needs to do the same thing. That is the cultural part of Stanley’s rationale for moving away from citing the Bible per se as our authority to citing witnesses and events behind the Bible. I just want you to think of some things to take with you. . In view of what Jesus and the New Testament writers say about the complete trustworthiness of the Old Testament (“Scripture cannot be broken,” John 10:35), I doubt that generation after generation of teenagers could read that and yet believe at the same time that it does not matter for my faith whether the events of the Old Testament really happened. What set their hearts a-burning was not the mere word of the Lord Jesus Christ. It was so uplifting to read their words and hear their love for me coming out of those thoughtful texts. This is why I’m absolutely convinced of the following: In the marketplace — not the church — in the public square, in the classroom, we must shift the debate away from whether the entire Bible is true and focus the debate on whether Jesus rose from the dead. With each passing year, the percentage of Americans who believe that the Bible is “just another book written by men” increases. I have already said that the Bible carries its own self-authenticating power when its meaning is seen for what it really is. It requires a new approach.”. But not always, and not usually. “I will continue to insist that the foundation of our faith is not an inspired book but the events that inspired the book.”. And that is an event for which we have overwhelming evidence. It may be that the Spirit-empowered heralding of the glory of this God, from the very text of Scripture, will cut through the “futility” of their thinking, and their suicidal love affair with sin (which they also know about, Romans 1:32), and authenticate itself as true. Jesus vanished from the table in Emmaus but he remained with the disciples in their burning hearts. Clearly, he has a distinction in his mind for how we speak “in the marketplace” but not “the church.” I think this is absolutely right. . And the most significant reason God provided these Gospels and Epistles from the beginning was so that the compelling beauty and worth of Christ would shine through these God-given writings. All you have to do is believe it.”. Let us always do better. Jesus says, “Wait for me.” The Bible’s command to “wait for the Lord” occurs over and over again, especially in the... 3. From mourning to discernment, from invitation to intimacy, and from community to the charge to go forth and witness: With Burning Hearts calls us to experience all of this journey, to know that what we celebrate and what we are called to live are one and the same. Fire does two things. Readers in 100+ Countries We want people to hear our preaching and be saved and built up in the faith. . How then shall we live? In an early version of the Bible in Sranan Tongo, the translation was Ke, hoe switi kouroe wi hatti be fili: “O, how sweet coolness did our hearts feel.” The translator “did this to avoid misunderstanding. The reason for this, he says, is that “for the first 300 years the debate centered on an event, not a book.”, It is the events, not the record of the events, that birthed the ‘church.’ The Bible did not create Christianity. Romans 15:5 “Now the God of patience and of encouragement grant you to be of the same mind one with another according to Christ Jesus . To be clear, I don’t believe “the Bible says,” “Scripture teaches,” and “the Word of God commands” are incorrect approaches. ” Holman Christian Standard Bible I think Stanley is only half right when he says, “Appealing to post-Christian people on the basis of the authority of Scripture has essentially the same effect as a Muslim imam appealing to you on the basis of the authority of the Quran.” He is right in that this happens. If so, I would simply encourage young preachers to think seriously about whether that is wise. . Stanley may view his weekend services as marketplace events rather than services of worship for the gathered church. . It is a divine interpretation of their meaning. This was common ground with his audience. Burning Hearts 1. In particular the post-Christian view of the Bible is not what it was in Sunday school. . Keep the Fire Burning, Kindling It With Care "Were not our hearts burning within us while he was talking to us on the road, while he was opening the scriptures to us?" To understand what the function of our heart is, we first need to realize that God’s desire is to have a warm, loving, and affectionate relationship with us in which we and He share the same life—His divine life. I am arguing that a God-breathed, inerrant Bible, with Jesus Christ at the center, is explosive with its own intrinsic and self-authenticating glory. But scratch beneath the surface and you’ll find the quest for happiness plays a big role. Consider this: in this long article I am probably not defending what Stanley is rejecting. So that the tested genuineness of your faith—more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire—may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. Evidence for the resurrection comes from the eyewitness testimonies of Jesus’ first-century followers who documented not what they believed but what they saw. Notice, I am not saying that a person can’t be saved without believing in the inerrancy of the Bible. Similarly, Paul preached in Acts 13 to the synagogue by unfolding Scripture, but in Acts 17 he preached to the Athenians without quoting Scripture. The devil knows that Jesus rose from the dead, and he is not saved (see also Luke 16:31). For 33 years, he served as pastor of Bethlehem Baptist Church, Minneapolis, Minnesota. They’re on a happiness quest. The band’s debut full-length album titled Aboa Sleeping came out in 2009. Scripture: Luke 24:13-35 Books of the Bible: New Testament, Luke God’s inspired word is sometimes heard with no effect. But their trustworthiness and authority were functioning from the middle of the first century onward. Burning Hearts is a Finnish band which may not have the same level of fame as some other indie pop groups. Before the Old and New Testaments were combined and titled “The Bible,” Christianity had already replaced the pantheon of Roman, barbarian, and most Egyptian gods and was the state religion of the Roman Empire. Paul said that “all Scripture is . Compassion, tears—for these we need to pray. Now here is where my ignorance may be relevant. Fourth, it does not imply that a preacher must say “the Bible says,” or “God’s word says,” or “ . 2 Samuel 23:7 - But the man who touches themMust be armed with iron and the shaft of a spear,And they will be completely burned with fire in their place.” God was kind enough to bring those authentic, long-trusted Gospels and Epistles together in the New Testament in due time. . Third, Stanley’s approach to preaching is rooted in a view of what is more compelling: arguments from events and witnesses behind the Bible, or arguments from the Bible itself as the point of authority? . Otherwise we don’t know what the event was, or have any confidence that it happened. Children walk away from the faith in the best and worst of families. All of our resources exist to guide you toward everlasting joy in Jesus Christ. The debate centered very largely on which written witnesses provided a trustworthy interpretation of the event. It is the simple, dreary day, with its commonplace duties and people, that smothers the burning heart— unless we have learned the secret of abiding in Jesus. But as he shows, it is not the bare event that serves as the foundation for our faith. Appealing to post-Christian people on the basis of the authority of Scripture has essentially the same effect as a Muslim imam appealing to you on the basis of the authority of the Quran. That persuasion is essential to saving faith, but not the essence of it. . . So consequently, during your whole lifetime and my whole lifetime, Christians have felt compelled to defend the Bible. But I would draw out the truth of something Stanley said which shows how complex this issue is. Light of the World. It is God’s own complete portrait of the glory of his Son — the meaning of his work from eternity to eternity, and its implications for human life. And what your students have discovered, and if you read broadly you’ve discovered, is that it is next to impossible to defend the entire Bible. I am saying that making that possibility an apologetic strategy for making Christianity more plausible to one generation will backfire in the next. Satan does not see the crucified and risen Christ as supremely beautiful, and he does not treasure him. But they are ineffective approaches for post-Christian people. . It is legitimate. I don’t know Stanley’s answer to these two questions. 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