That said, tourists wear shorts and sandals because they are not used to the heat or aware of such social norms. Could the structure built above be some sort of a net or trapping device? Photo #509 was permanently deleted which takes advanced technical knowledge, plus a computer. Blue is an uncommon color in the rainforest for anything of that size. Please support us we cant do it without you. All items were in one place at this point, and together the elements and biology dispersed them and kept some for the jungle. Just trying to get as many ideas together as possible, so that some clue may surface one day. They decided to take that short hike, but they failed to tell anyone where they were going and what time to expect them back. The tragic deaths of Kris and Lisanne remain a disturbing mystery. In fact, its probable to some degree. Subsequent analysis revealed that on April 4, Froons phone battery became exhausted, but between April 5 and April 11, Kremers iPhone was turned on multiple times but whoever turned it on didnt enter the PIN code correctly. For this websites credibility I would strongly recommend more thorough moderation of peoples comments. At least the trash element and roof structure looks like very strong evidence. The last half either had a wrong password, or simply no password at all was entered. For further details of our complaints policy and to make a complaint please click this link: thesun.co.uk/editorial-complaints/, The girls saved up for six months for the trip to Panama, One of the last pictures taken on a camera belonging to one of the girls, The contents of a backpack found near a river and handed in by a local woman, A foot was found still inside a boot two months after the girls vanished, Photos released from the camera showed some of the girl's belongings scattered around the rocks, And one image appears to show the back of Kris's head - possibly with blood around the bottom of her hair, Chilling photos found on missing hikers camera show mysterious final moments before girls vanished in Panama jungle, Headteacher sacked 'after sending parents a list of striking teachers' as school launches probe, Isle of Innisfree ferry: Blaze breaks out on boat carrying 183 people in English Channel as lifeboats scramble to scene. So easily noticeable. What do you think? I dissagree with her hand beeing tied. Ive seen the chronological order of the photos posted by Scarlet and some of the strikes me as being askew. He threatened them with a machete, and led them to a sacrificial alter. Dogs here are seen as animals (like a jaguar or puma) that can take care of themselves, theyre seen as being dirty (not permitted on furniture) and are more rugged, like the dog can handle his own problems. But she is definitely on a well-worn path. The fact that one of the 112 called connected for 2 seconds and they did not redial it immediately, is also well dodgy. Rocko Akira Clapp. These photos all look very photoshopped. Fingerprints were not investigated. Hopefully, this 2021 investigation can find the truth of exactly what happened. https://www.laestrella.com.pa/nacional/141020/of-piece-medical-studies-examiner. I feel that unless they do or unless further forensic work has shown something more then, no matter what the experts in survival say, it is still only speculation and not proof. They were lost very shortly after arriving at their destination, And then they made a huge mistake by heading due north to find their way back home and they should have been going to the southeast. Im not sure if people can really talk with animals but i sure would try and see by calling on a few and get their opinion. It appears to me that Kris has her right arm to her right temple and you can see part of her left elbow. This would cover natural causes and the rucksack contents being in perfect condition. Maybe the girls did perish deep in the jungle, but that doesnt rule out somebody causing them to get lost. However, image 510 was taken on April 8, in the darkness of the jungle. It suggest that this case goes deeper than we imagine. I read that the dog returned to town in the evening, alone, but I havent seen it in any pictures. Political corruption runs rampant, depending on the community, which has a cascading effect on law enforcement and local crime. There is much speculation about the night time fotos made using the Cannon. They usually drown their victims, hit and run car accidents, or just disappear the victim, etc anything that ensures theres no obvious intent to the police. I do get very creepy and bad vibes from this photo though. This is so surreal. I wish we had the answers to your questions. Didnt they cross the line where it had a clear sign not to cross it? How long does an AI correction take for you to do? This could be a very handy skill to our team. Kris is sticking her tongue out in this photo. Also, it wouldnt make sense if Lisanne didnt know Kris password. I never received a response. The picture where she is crossing the stream and looking back, her smile looks forced. I prefer to think that the two girls had some sort of accident, still horrific but better than being murdered. Between taking the last foto (Nr 508) at 12:54 local time and the first SOS call at 16:39 local time something happened. I think that this is a photoshopped image made by cutting out a picture of Kris and pasting it onto a background to give the false impression that Kris and Lisanne went on the Pianista Trail. I could be wrong, but until I see some compelling evidence to the contrary, Im sticking with Juans theory. The girls took photos of so many things, even many mundane thingsbut for some reason the dog wasnt present in any of the photos. He has a weapon like o jr t in his hands. Even the cheap pair of sunglasses are in perfect condition. I think its possible the red and black object is actually just a reddish-brown dead plant leaf jungle leaves can get rather large. She is looking down to the left and appears to be shocked by what she sees. NOT A SINGLE ONE? Perhaps Kris is already caught in the trap and thats why she is in a funny position and her waist is drawn in tight. They took a swim before the trip with to local young man the same day they went in the forest. Fearing that these two strangers may bring the wrath of God upon him, he releases them into the jungle. It seems to be made up of white paint, at least like a tribal looking face of white paint. and happened to Kris that would explain why Lisannes phone was first one used to make an SOS call. I dont think so. Meanwhile, on April 2, 2014, the pairmissed their appointment with their hired tour guide. I also think those girls probably already perished before the dates on those daytime photos. Cheers. Excellent editing work, thanks to Justin. I am trying not to speculate but where is the firm incontrovertible starting point? The sign actually looks like a door with light shining thru.thats crazy. On the bottom right of the photo it looks as though her hair is wrapped around somebodys fingers, or rather someone has their fingers wrapped around her hair. If I saw a cow skull hanging in a tree I would get the hell out of there, not pose for a photo. Hi Chris, I agree that discussion should be civil but this comment section has turned into something which I consider to be absolutely ridiculous. Once there, the families and detectives began a massive search. I think the look on her face isnt scared, but she looks to maybe be in wonder that they found a place like that? Yes, this was taken after their photos at the Mirador. Highly probable. Why no more fotos were taken after 508 on the 1st until the nighttime session on the 7/8th? Any idea of the exact location where this picture is taken? They are 99.999999% preventable. Were trying to raise $5,000 for gear, security, transportation and food. I think the camera dried and started working again and they took pictures at night. Something drastic happened it is clear but what exactly and where exactly? This level of negligence and irresponsibility would be considered criminal in a developed country. Of course, nobody knows exactly why things happened. Theres a circular object hanging to the left of Kris. You would write something out on notepad or at least be texting everyone in your address book hoping one got through saying Help. Several of the relatives and friends of those visitors to the Quintana Roo who went missing formed a group named "Truth, Memory, and Justice" in an attempt to . His family told Fox News that he had been traveling by himself and he was in good health. Most people in Panama dont have the expertise, nor equipment to handle these sophisticated tasks. I would like to know the answer to that question also. With regards to the photos, they are probably real. Thanks for your comment. She cant be shielding her eyes from the sun, as no shadow is falling over her eyes. Is there somebody behind the insignia? The bag contained her camera as well as two pairs of sunglasses, $83 in cash, Froons passport, a water bottle, two bras, and both womens phones. At dawn the rain stops and she sets out. The remains of both women were found soon after that. Sue and Dennis Borries are pictured in an undated image. There is no question thats what it is. Even if there is only one it can provide information of they were not which is important to reduce the places they could be because much of the conspiracy theories I see seem to suggest they were not on the trail. after studying the original photo, she is actually posing sticking her tongue out, in a slight hunched over salute, the light is hitting her hand, her pose and demeanor makes me believe it is Lisanne taking the photo. In all of the photos, there is zero evidence to suggest that the dog was truly with the girls on their hike into the forest. I read that the backpack belonged to Lisanne Froon. Also, where did learn that her brother mistakenly put the hair photo online? Kris Kremers, 21, and Lisanne. Right now Im simply building a list of names to determine interest: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/07/14/organizing-a-research-team/. Theyre also exceptionally rugged and dangerous, especially during the April-to-October wet season. Hi Anna, yes, Im aware of that and thank you for shedding light on that for other readers. Slight left and up from the girl. Kris is hunched over beside a sacrificial alter with hands tied behind her. Hope this was not a member of one of those mad religious sects that, over the years, have been torturing and killing people in Panama. Kris and Lisanne's families decided to fly out to Panama and bring Dutch detectives with them. From Chriss other article it seems the girls took a taxi to the hiking starting point? Perhaps the photos served astrail markersto help the young women find their way around or back to therescuers. On April 1, the 21-year-old and 22-year-old went for a walk . Its disturbing. Some people believe the two girls got lost lost, some people believe the third-party theory and some people have mixed theories. I cant explain the calls or photos or intact skin that was found. I do not think this case fits the criteria of missing 411. Also why did they go alone without a guide? Have you performed this same work on any of the other case photos? Are you familiar with the Koude Kaas blogs about this case? Possibly ambushed and didnt have time? Poor investigations and low standards are very common in these under-developed countries. The search efforts moved into the forests where the young women traversed, using on-foot search teams and dog units. So its kind of curious that the most critical images are either cropped or missing entirely. There is an illustration drawn on Kriss back in the hair photo. The Canon Powershot SX270 HS, has two methods of numbering images. These were of seemingly random objects, like a stick with plastic sticking to it, as well as scenes of foliage, canyons, anda bridge. It was probably done by the perpetrators in order to collect the reward money. She looks as if her hands are above her head in a way someone would have them if a police officer were to tell them to put their hands above their head. Im curious. Often, they. Watch Lost in the Wild Season 1 Episode 1. If you find more info about this, please feel free to share it. And look at it from this point of view. I think in the original photo she is putting on her backpack, stretching her arm and back, and the backpack has been airbrushed out because of course she didnt take that with her. Is there a head count of how many people have perished using the hiking trail in, say the last 10 years? What people are mistaking as swelling of the right eye/cheek is simply the sunlight highlighting the contours of the right side of her face while the left side is in shadow, probably combined with squinting of the right eye due to the bright light. Here is what I see: You have to look hard. So sad what happened to them today is the first Ive heard of the story and its wildly upsetting. Alex Humphrey disappeared . Froonand Kremerswere both in their early 20s; they traveled toPanama to work with children. Their backpack contents and electronics were stolen to be sold later but handed back to stop the search and not be incriminated. I think that the taxi driver knew who has killed them thats why sb killed him, the guide man who found the bones and their belongings can be the murderer and he was the person went to their room maybe to find the cable charge maybe pretending that he hadnt visited them on the reserved time, then he put their bag and money and camera for police because he was scared they search his house too, the locals heard screaming and then a crash (broken bones due to fall) in the jungle 4 days after their missing and warned about that to some french tourist, this article is long and I didnt sleep last night. This may explain why the taxi driver and the two young men died so soon after this incident. So this sparked my curiosity. I think Juan is actively trying to protect this human trafficking agency. Her hands are not tied. With all the misinformation thrown out there and poor follow up work (likely to protect tourism), any ones guess is possible. Could fishing line be being used to secure all this making it hard to see, & could that blue object on the ground be part of the roof device- step on it & it triggers it or something like that? Bu that he meant an outcome which had no human input to the consequences. They could have been a target early on. I have seen comment to suggest that they could have made the trip to the divide returned and then gone to another place but then why no more fotos on either phone or camera? Hi Marie, Theres no evidence that points to the dog being with them. And the weird flesh colored thing hanging in the tree to her left could be a skinned animal. 4. Ive written about many disappearances in Central America: https://imperfectplan.com/disappearances/, Thank you for your comment and please feel free to send me any notes/info that you find. The girls were no longer alive after April 2nd latest. Not getting any fingerprints looks suspect. That does not make sense if they were genuine. Ive found that there are in fact two native type people visible in the night photos. The predator is methodical. The goal wouldnt be to identify suspects or disrupt anyones life. I know that in previous photos there are trenches like this one naturally occurring throughout the jungle due to erosion, but this one doesnt appear to be from that. ): https://ibb.co/nqy80hS Realizing just how much trouble these two could have been in. Regarding the photos, I have no idea why they would be taking these, deleted some later and left this one, especially since the ribbed roofing structure is somewhat obvious. Have you looked closely at what Chris has labelled the insignia. Her right hand is clearly raised in front of her shading her face from the sunlight. I did not cover all of the accidents and trials and tribulations along the way leading to their death. Could be leaves, I suppose, but to me it looks like someone is looking at the them from the vegetation. Clearly the trash on the rocks indicates it had active people. If there are documented river paths, this could be a way to find that exact same location. play. I must have been living in a cave and totally preoccupied with myself when this happened because I only stumbled across this via a Youtube video ( one of many) by Juan Perea Y Monsuw on Friday. Please read. Or if someone deleted them? As soon as I zoomed in, my heart sank for her. They decided to enter the jungle, but they failed to mark their entry point into the jungle with a stack of rocks or some such marking. How many tourists go to Australia? Despite these . Kremers and Froon set out into the forest along thePianista Trail around 11 amon April 1, 2014,with only a backpack between them. PANAMA CITY BEACH Local officials agree that traffic is the No. Im sure that when they left on that short hike that their intention was to be back home before dark and to be back to the host home for supper on time. Its part of the relaxed culture. I find it really creepy, but maybe Im looking at it wrong due to shadows and light. So this photo may possibly offer more insight into the story. (this was enhanced by an AI as someone who has studied this sort of thing professionally, explains some of the distortions and weird patterns in the photos leaves and vines, the AI distorted her face lol and it made it appear she has no arm from the elbow down). I am not an investigator but I find it very strange that there were no witnesses found either tourists or locals on the trail. But even when a phone is locked after thee attempts the screen says emergency calls only. perhaps there is much that was missed by a very bungled police investigation. Who said they didnt? Its interesting numerous people have contacted me anonymously and informed me that there are already multiple existing research teams that are investigating this case privately. Of course these generalities and cultural traits do not apply to everyone here. My interest would be to see if its scientifically possible for the official theory to have happened. A lot of times countries dont want investigations to be publicized or they shut them down as best they can in order for their tourist trade to not be hurt!!!!! To me, this photo says it all. This backpack suddenly showed up 2 months after the disappearing. Ive found that there are in fact two native type people visible in the night photos. The left-side of her head is not hair or her hand, but just the foliage in the background. I hope you understand my english, im not a native speaker. One indication is that I cannot see the shoulder strap of her top that is obscured by her white/fair forearm. I wouldnt give mine out to my best friend, not even to my wife. And I cannot fathom standing this way, hands behind the back and turned like that unless my hands were restricted behind my back. They probably came off the summit the wrong way. The finding of the backpack 14 miles away is too incredulous to be believed. Haha, Im assuming this is a joke, right? On one hand, its more liberating and freeing. The remains of two American women who went missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama a month ago have been . Nobody is safe. However, Dutch authors Marja West and Jrgen Snoeren claim they have solved the mystery in their bookLost in The Jungle. The first thing that strikes me as very odd in this photograph and I think I havent seen anyone pointing that out yet -, is a specific number. For other inquiries, Contact Us. It also contained Lisanne's camera and both of their phones. But during my time spending a year there in 2015 (at the time Id not heard of this case), I had asked around about legends within the jungle and there is in fact legends from tribes who never interacted and are thousands of miles apart which regress of some THING that comes from the sky or trees that is not visible to humans but devours then to the bone. Also the path looks to be a dried up river vs a man made path. Also, sometimes the investigations go dead because the government wants the story to go away in order for the tourist trade to not be hurt. Apart from the fact if she was photoshopped in this picture, i.m.o. Hi, there sounds plausible but there is something about this case when I start to find some closure that it was an accident OR indeed foul play, I get new evidence from the internet debunking the conclusion I arrived at. Its part of life in the countryside and small towns. Over the years, dozens of tourists like Agarwal, many of them foreign nationals, have gone missing while visiting the Parvati Valley in the state of Himachal Pradesh. For the first handful, a correct password was entered. Its a bit strange that the dog is not in any picture. The black and red object above is clearly a decayed plant leaf. While some believe Kris and Lisanne died in an accident, the ex-cop slammed the police investigation in Panama as shoddy and said it should be redone. 1 Long-Haul Tourism Market. All Froon and Kremers photos were taking with phones and a camera from six years ago, probably jpeg, with all the associated algorithm issues, let alone we have no idea of the provenance of the photos we are all seeing, I doubt any of it is first generation copies straight from the devices, and every time we copy a photo we risk changing the data somewhat. On the other hand, its more dangerous and risky. In reality, foreigners are usually not the target of gangs. More than 100 pictureswere on the camera; the first few looked like normal tourist photos with the womensmiling together. if both then was the other found in their room? Numerous families of disappeared family members have contacted me from my writing and the following is nearly always the sentiment they convey: Local authorities are unreliable, careless, slow to respond, even slower to take action, and they often hinder the familys own investigations. There are . Wow, theres a lot going on in this picture. Would like to know exactly where and when the final day photo was taken. I think the night photos were taken by individuals who found the device and were not familiar with the camera, perhaps never seeing a camera before. How long have Keir Starmer and Sue Gray been secretly cooking up their plot? They know that youre supposed to find a river, so they set out in search. https://i.postimg.cc/3xK4Pdmb/Kris-Kremers-Full-Photo-Highest-Res-auto-x1-1-photos-v2-faces-x2-colored-toned.jpg. You can bet your life if someone was with them at that point, then they were the culprits who had something to do with the girls disappearance. Ive seen cases in which political frenemies were erased out of photos without a trace. Did they become lostand fall down a cliff? Its a sect of foreign Christians that set up in the area and murdered 6 people FROM one of the local tribes. Hi Rune (and Stian), great points. What we do know is for 5 days after they disappeared, her phone was checked about a dozen times. Kris had her doubts but was jollied along by the more trusting girl. Theres some orange with white dots. Latin America has tens of thousands of small communities, all of which operate slightly differently to some degree. 2. This makes no sense. Nobody knows what happened to Kris and Lisanne and everything is open to speculation until more information is found. The camera could have malfunctioned but this seem highly unlikely. They knew to be on guard and be careful. People have long realized that its up to the public to solve this. How close was this tribe to where they went missing? This means either the user became incapacitated and was not operating the phone or was seriously confused. Shes clearly holding a bottle of water in her left hand in front of her. Shes ducking down slightly and trying to shield her eyes from the sun with her right arm. Do they deal in weapons, drugs, porn? It would also show that the photos had been truly messed about with, as this one is supposed to come before the photos of her crossing the stream. The dog wasnt in any photos, nor were the girls photographed after their disappearance. And the police know who it is, but will not say anything. Bringing justice to assailants that harm tourists is very often not a top priority, and it shows through the number of botched investigations. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_JheETl6Obg. Thanks Chris!! They place the evidence where it can be found, brining the matter to a close. However, the tone of the pictures began to change. In other pictures of her crossing water she is clearly dirty with her hair up. But what if that is what led them off track ? Please note: Our team is committed to accuracy of information and respecting the privacy of those involved with this disappearance case. Eight tourists from Moscow who. The Panamanian government had requested that the U.S. deploy assets including Navy salvage divers and sonar to aid in the search effort and locate the wreckage in the days after the crash, but the request was denied due to a lack of assets and jurisdiction, according to a statement from the Velleman and Borries families. More probable is that the picture was deleted. They had more than enough evidence and leads to solve the case but they ignored so much of the evidence. Kris walks down the ravine and bends over to examine orange graffiti It may be a plant, but it appears to have a definitive shape and its oddly located that the very center of the path with no other visible red things in the trees. From my understanding, the various teams communicate with each other about which parts of the case they are investigating, and collaborate occasionally to share information. If you watch the four part video of the entire trail beyond the Mirador you will see exactly where this photo was taken, and there is not a cave or ledge or ravine anywhere near her. Sixty percent of these deaths were documented on the border between Mexico and the United . Brought to trial and prosecuted successfully: highly unlikely, less than 1%. After days reviewing the evidence, Im now going to share a synopsis of what I believe happened there in the deep, dark cloud forest of Panama. Like so many other people I really, really wish we could find the answers to this mystery. This link answers some of those questions: Kris Kremers Case: The People Involved (Reference Guide). Any comments that are disrespectful or inconsiderate to the families of Kris and Lisanne will be removed by a moderator. Lets try one more time then (and please dont censor this, even if you think that it is not pretty murders rarely are! The oddest thing about this photo is the look on her face which looks very distorted. To Janice To me it looks as if shes holding up one hand cupping her ear as if to hear something being shouted to her. Shes just exploring. I believe one fell. This connected callwas stable for roughly two seconds. They came to learn a language and embrace a culture. Matts article about the daytime photos (link), https://voyager.lupomesky.cz/kremers-froon/kris-gully-3composite.jpg, https://koudekaas.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-disappearance-of-kris-kremers-and_11.html, https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CJKQMGxJ1Kc/XH7ld3XtSnI/AAAAAAAAjOg/kechIb5Cge8msf5kRVinBCrEjIiBCl7TwCLcBGAs/s1600/7reCdlm.jpg, https://www.laestrella.com.pa/nacional/141020/of-piece-medical-studies-examiner, https://koudekaas.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-disappearance-of-kris-kremers-and.html, Kris Kremers Case: The People Involved (Reference Guide), New Case Data: Night Photo EXIF Temperatures, Video Footage: El Pianista Complete Trail Hike, Canadas Freedom Convoy Raises Millions On GiveSendGo, Panama Expedition 2021 Complete Overview, Disappearance Stories A Word Of Caution, Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon (Case Articles), 18 Critical Tips for Traveling Central America. The hanging object and other points of interest you highlighted reminded me of this. Right on the bank of the river/stream. Most novices wouldnt know how to properly handle something like this, so it was probably someone experienced with computers. ABC News had previously reached out to the U.S. Embassy in Panama for comment but did not receive a response. I just want to agree with Chris and the poster JW that she is shading her eyes with her right arm up. This figure has increased rapidly since the millionth tourist . To touch on the disappearance case of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, we can vividly see the incompetence that took place, even under the spotlight of international pressure. If so then those could tell some information. It must have been flowing in the river the police said. Image 505 is actually the last image before the night photos. I have a working theory of the predator (not a specific name). Is it a reasonable number? Visit Panama City Beach officials tell us in 2021, our tourism numbers were up 50% over pre-pandemic numbers. Like she was scouting and turned back to talk to Lisanne, shielding her eyes from the sun to see her. Lisanne sets up a SOS with toilet paper and a mirror, hoping to get the attention of the helicopters. You ask good questions. This is because people who knew the area were able to recognize that the nighttime photos were likely taken at Caldera springs, more than 20 miles from the area the girls allegedly went missing at.