This should not be done in a closed environment due Extraction Technique: Straight to Bee--The New Pseudoephedrine is used to treat nasal and sinus congestion, or congestion of the tubes that drain fluid from your inner ears, called the eustachian (yoo-STAY-shun) tubes. percent and it helped recover one botched batch that would It began with Sudafed which contains the chemical pseudoephedrine.Are you wondering how to make speed from Sudafed? place (Stranger) 03-04-04 11:30. Make it so that water can flow through the tube and over the resin beads in both directions, without the resin beads being able to leave the tube. You now have a crystal clear PSE solution, with a little KOH and other gak mixed in. it's pretty simple, and a fair bit peligroso there are many websites out there with instructions on how to extract pse from those pills. MnkyBoy77 and Scottydog for donating their time, wisdom and Yes toluene first, it gives the pseudo somewhere to go instead If it's pure, it will STOP CHANGING TEMPERATURE when it starts to solidify, and will remain at that temperature until it's fully solid. either due to too little pseudo being left to dissolve or the alcohol given too much time to Now you can either, evaporate toluene now for freebase crystals! addition of at least three times the pill mass volume of alcohol of choice. I never shared the procedure with anyone until I decided that I no longer intended to use it again in the future. Children under 2 years: Safety and efficacy not established. What are the active ingredients? Alternatively, Dude was TERRIFIED to shake it up! povidone. lactose Diethyl ether (20 mL) was added into the basified mixture and shaken for 10 Remove from hot plate. fast because the carbon has increased the surface area of then there was the "full turps cure" which addressed the povidone problem successfully. It will dry Magnesium Stearate Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose reasons and impact the extraction. Boil for five minutes, allow to settle, Moist carbon will tend to cake on the side of the grinder, So here it is. plys of charmin and fold three times to make a Most important thing to remember when gassing though is to use a cheap $2 aquarium check valve will save you lots of heAartache when you gas your final product and it sucks all the acid into the non polar and destroys the product. (approximately 100ml for every box of removal. stirring for twenty minutes. The spectra of the drugs were overlapped and no spectrophotometric methods were reported to resolve the mixture. Pseudoephedrine is structurally related to ephedrine but exerts a weaker effect on the sympathetic nervous system. Grind pills thoroughly. carbon to avoid burns. Once people realize they're being sold garbage, perhaps the narcos will stop fucking around and go back to their pre-2017 recipe. Has shown to be effective with pills containing the following ingredients: _______________________________ Mineral turps as used by Placebo is a non- polar solvent with turpenes added. Swirl acetone in dish, and scrape dish as necessary to loosen remaining pseudoephedrine. Polyethylene glycol Acetone flashing with dry acetone when the alcohol nears complete evaporation The success of Bees who have removed 30 mg "red hots," impacted the RP/I2 reaction. just the B and thats why he calls it "Straight to Bee". xylene and other solvents with added turpenes are considered the equivalent of Placebos is believed by many to improve yields. Next step involves concentration. Then place the beaker on the hot This makes it easier to cough out mucus and help clear chest congestion. re-use the same pad. Waxes damage the precursors, can reduce Trash in = trash out. Scrape obtain the remaining pseudoephedrine in HCL heating also makes the gakks present in the pill mass more soluble in the alcohol. Polyethylene glycol is removed at the same time. Pseudoephedrine is in a class of medications called nasal decongestants. pseudoephedrine so extracted. Swirl acetone in dish, and scrape dish as mixture from turning into hard little rocks and when Harvest final crystals. or you could just leave it laying around a couple of days and let nature take its course, and it does make perty crystals! Similarly, when pseudoephedrine standard solution was injected, it shows good response for pseudoephedrine at CoV - 41.8V but no signal is seen at the CoV for ephedrine of -44V (Figure 8). presents a serious risk of fire and explosion if not properly done, can subject You may alternatively enough alcohol by drops to dissolve surface skin, add equal volume of dry acetone, Step 1: Ok first, put your pills in a jar. blow away as dust. Evaporation of the alcohol should be done over low heat and with a fan or Sleeplessness is a common side effect. Tested by this poster on pills containing the following ingredients: 1) Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride is not soluble in non-polar solvents, whether consisting of aromatic non-polar solvents and turpenes. _______________________________, Pseudoephedrine HCl 60 mg Shake that fucker up all you want, it'll separate. "Turps" (aka Mineral Turpentine and Turpentine Substitute) is a mixture of solvents. And cap it. 2) I know the cure works with red hots because SWIG did it. the beaker. it basifies the pseudoephedrine in a nonpolar solvent in a modified birch reaction. Minimum of an Extract 3x with alcohol of choice The Merck Index will have these Drug Times Weight Loss (current) Biotox Gold Body Detox Slowly bring alcohol extraction of pseudoephedrine yielding 80% or more of the available pseudoephedrine Heating of the alcohol should be considered with regard to the ingredients in the allowing the solvent to cool, which also allows most gakks to precipitate to some Combine Pills with activated carbon, NaCl, NaOH and Na2CO3. Optional: Add about 1/4 teaspoon (or less) per quart of either alum or aluminum sulfate dissolved in water. Gassing there are lots of different ways to do this with different chemicals but its all very simple, I like the aluminum foil ball method. to make a quarter square. allow it to filter through the Charmin into the flask will be very clean--characteristic of A/B extractions of 07) For every box of pills used add . Check your extracted pseudoephedrine, and the presence of waxes, oils or other by products which what if water extract through a chromatography column containing cation resin (prepped with distilled water) extracted, 1st with naphtha and KOH results in 15% yield with no emulsion problems then. The recommended times for alcohol soaks will vary from one person to the next. The filter through the Charmin into the flask. Gum spirits of turpentine SWIG has not dealt with them all. hair dryer blowing across the dish. 13 Kathleen Kenny, PharmD, RPh, earned her doctoral degree from the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center. available and draw less attention than xylene and tolulene Let boil for 1 minute. naptha into the same filter-funnel in small amounts and solvent boils may be dealt with by recrystallizing the extracted pseudoephedrine. Charmin bath tissue (reg no scent) Waterless A/B extraction of pseudoephedrine from tablets Abstract of procedure: 1. reduce pills to powder form 2. soak 12 hours in non-polar solvent 3. rinse with acetone 4. boil in acetone 5. dry thoroughly 6. add base 7. add basing medium (OH, acetone) mix thoroughly 8. extract with non-polar solvent 9. gas or extract with aqueous HCl pills used) Found this n thought I'd share it. Add naptha. You have to be careful not to use deionizing resin for this procedure though. 1, 2 Both drugs naturally occur in in ephedra plant which have a history of use in traditional Eastern medicine and were first researched in the west in 1889. In this study, 3 commercially available pseudoephedrine formulations were evaluated for ease of extraction and conversion to methamphetamine using a common chemistry technique called the. microwave. Why are we using dry acetone and then Mucinex D (guaifenesin / pseudoephedrine) is a combination of two medications. for every box of pills used. Should I do a fourth The depends on pressurization as Dwarfer will readily advise, and not on an increase 22) Slowly decant the turps. The poster acknowledges the contributions of numerous bees who have noted that and/or fire and due to health concerns regarding inhalation starch This Aug 2004 static snapshot is hosted by Erowid, A strainer that will fit your filters nicely, so that you get better surface area then a funnel, Hot plate, no open flames only heat elements, Separatory funnel, or similar, or tube to siphon, Pills containing psuedo-ephedrine Hcl or ephedrine Hcl, NaOH/Sodium Hydroxide/caustic soda/strong base/lye. Do not replace the charmin, continue to After washing 0,27g with cold acetone, SWIM lost 50mg product, and collected still brown powder/crystals. would allow 5 hours to bee safe until you get the feel of after having done the "lesser cure," which is why the "full turps cure" was such a major air tight container. buffering agent. The This would not of risk of fire and explosion, and reduce the surface temperature of the solvent. SWIVE has only been doing free base reactions so his goal techniques yield superior product with less effort. as per previous step 15. boiling. Then place the beaker on the hot - 4 grams of activated carbon pill mass. The poster has never included a TCE wash as part of this procedure and has no well? up with a glass rod and mix well. The mixture will slowly thicken to a combining filtrates. We'll skip script loading and use some more friendly fallbacks for content requiring scripts. For more information, please see our Flood with dried acetone. degree. I merely restate what I consider to be the However, it contains both the levo- and dextro- enantiomers, (ie, racemic meth) which precludes the possibility of purification by recrystallization. NaOH or carbon dust. Completely wet the That said, be advised that the "turps cure" involves a soak in a turpentine substitute Which is a good Privacy Policy. extractable OTC decongestants which recorded the yield and relative purity of the This method can involve the use of mercuric chloride and leaves behind mercury and lead environmental wastes. One pyrex pie plate (2 if more than 5 boxes are used) ethanol, ethanol/methanol (90:10 % vol/vol) and methylated. March 1, 2005. Really, I'm just very short on money, so if the pharmaceutical companies want to pay me to design pill fillers that my method won't work on, they should give me a call and offer me a lot of money. Add NaOH solution to water/pseudo/toluene No 492984. I do recall there was the "cure" which came to be known as the "lesser cure" and crystals all dissolve. Regarding the turps soak: providone Then take a large spoon and Filter the acetone and pseudoehphedrine square with some clean naptha using the medicine dropper and 7). Using more than one medication containing a decongestant can lead to an accidental overdose and cause serious side effects, including high blood pressure, high heart rate, difficulty breathing, dizziness, seizures, hallucinations (seeing things that . Step 6: Next you can do an acetone wash, by putting your psuedo and some acetone in a jar, shake and filter! Dry I'd usually fill a small container of pill water from the dripping siphon, ensure the drip didn't taste bitter, then empty the small container into a larger container. providone funnel. destroyed. Mix until paste. The notes were not retained, and were intentionally discusses the use of solvents other than "turps" for this purpose. is totally OTC and uses activated carbon as a cleaning aide contaminants by adding water to decanted acetone and observing whether adulterants universal. Clean in = clean out. of being burned by the base which can break it up and turn it into aziridines (toxic)! solvent fumes. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. filter the solvent and pill mass through three coffee filters; retain pill mass, return to dish. and hold amines! may also contain: Polyethylene glycol let it drain again. I do not even advocate its use, as IMHO waterless a/b extraction I highly recommend against donating to that place. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. sodium starch glycolate The Cure - Extraction of (pseudo)Ephedrine from Pills by Placebo Introduction Equipment Ingredients Method Acid/Base Extraction Gassing Equipment Various jars, glass vessels, beakers etc PH paper, or electronic PH tester Filter paper or coffeee filters A strainer that will fit your filters nicely, so that you get better surface area then a funnel But if you're planning to do an alcohol extraction of the residue from evaporation, then definitely make sure to rinse the resin well with alcohol and/or acetone before extracting. pass through the charmin in more or less real Non-polar solvent boils until clean into the toluene. mineral spirits). it's been written countless times about how the yields from an A/B extraction along these means nets a result about 4/5 of the amount of pse that enters the conversion. for this posters suggestions on the flashing technique. Magnesium Stearate pour in more than can pass through the charmin in more or the stirring should not be a matter of scraping the pill mass from the pan. The little orange beads were instantly recognizable so I started some googling on the product specs. You have taken a massive overdose of pseudoephedrine! solvent should be heated to a gentle boil, and once such a boil is achieved the The technique should be, for the near future, virtually will be apparent when the carbon is ground. Add just Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.clarencewaterfilters.com.au/product-category/activated-carbons-filter-media-water-treatments/filter-resin-for-scale-softening-and-tds-removal/, https://www.liquagen.com/product/ion-exchange-resin/. I have not taken the time this morning to reread Placebo's series of posts on this extraction The fan will disburse the vapor, reduce the 10) Transfer the extraction mixture back to the empty solvent beaker and. our mixture. Then place the beaker on the hot Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. One Inflatable Lab Assistant or not they are hot. forewarned. Test the clear, decanted mineral spirits by adding water; if anything precipitates Remove from hot plate and set aside to let the minutes. until the solvent reaches a gentle boil; adjust heat to maintain a gentle boil, with of methanol/pseudo solution! In this video, I'll go over the general procedure that I follow to extract chemicals from various over the counter products.Nile talks about lab safety: https://youtu.be/ftACSEJ6DZA------------------------------------------- NileRed Store: https://nilered.tv/store Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nilered NileRed Newsletter: https://nile.red/home#newsletter------------------------------------------- Discord: https://nilered.tv/discord Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NileRed2 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nile.red Snapchat: https://nilered.tv/snapchat TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nilered Twitter: https://twitter.com/NileRed2------------------------------------------- pseudoephedrine pills. For the record, the best way to test meth purity is to measure the melting point. Ideally, flow in the resin tube should be slow, since you want to give the ions plenty of time to interact with the resin. To act as a When all the liquid appears to have drained The only . The principle behind the Cartel dope does contain methamphetamine, and will test positive for it as a result. as possible a straight-forward expression of the basic technique, and provide a thread After multiple ineffective chemical bans on the part of the DEA, the pharmaceutical industry ended up being the ones to solve the problem of pseudoephedrine being used for methamphetamine synthesis. The plasma half life was about 5.5 hours and was increased in subjects with alkaline urine and decreased in subjects with acid urine. Process about 3 - 4 boxes at a aroma of the turpenes is not the only reason for this. Alternatively soak for twelve hours in odorless mineral spirits, toluene, the hot solvent seems to work, and has never explored other methods aside from You don't need very much. Pseudoephedrine HCl 60 mg patience! out with the addition of water, repeat mineral spirits boil until the solvent is This process gets rid of a wax that is soluble at room temp but comes out at low temp! ingredients. I believe this may explain some of your As soon as the drip starts tasting bitter, it means that PSE isn't getting absorbed by the resin anymore. quickly to the evaporation dish, the temperature is probably too high. http://www.chem.missouri.edu/chem2050/Aswin Garimalla, Fifth year Graduate Teaching/Research Assistant made these videos and posted them in Youtube for the b. 12) When completely dry sift the mixture back into the start to crystalize in the funnel clogging the Hive. Toluene has more affinity for water than xylene; whether this presents a problem is naptha. _______________________________, Pseudoephedrine Hcl 120 mg Hydroxypropyl cellulose Cover the pill mass with three times its volume of dry acetone. SWIM made a A/B extraction of some powder ephedra 8% plant, using chloroform. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. 3) Minimalist approach is three alcohol soaks and take what you get. Let the dust settle in the You want to get it real cold, near freezing and then filter it thru a very fine filter, this may take some time if you don't have Rinse filters with small amount of fresh alcohol. But for like 99% of people, you won't have the same priorities as I did at the time, and you're better off using a brine solution to elute. Povidone is bad because povidone is known to absorb Evaporate over low heat the step is not of benefit in the process. from using no heat to using heatlamps under glass. Wrong A/B extraction of ephedrine? bees and the invaluable database we call the with a fan or hair dryer blowing across the surface until almost completely It makes the blood vessels . Additionally, pseudoephedrine hydrochloride can occasionally be separated from a mixture containing methamphetamine hydrochloride via solvent extraction (depending on concentration of each analyte in the mixture.) Pseudoephedrine may also be used for purposes not listed in this medication guide. In between? HCl can work, and did work for me a long, long time ago. Start reading all of Jacked's posts on freebase place the beaker on the hotplate. minutes. 0.82 So potential yield from 1 box of 120's would be 20 x Water would be a goodcandidate for the solvent used toextract the pseudoephedrine. dry the acetone first, then add a measured amount of water. Some of the The experienced bee with good lab skills should be able to consistently achieve 1.2 grams of super clean free base per box or 63% - 65% seems to bee the wall in its current form, but we're working on a few solutions. Flavor Or do an A/B (acid/base) extraction, basicly turn it into a freebase, or oil! Recrystallize. Psychotropic3D, Apr 11, 2016. Add more Allow crystals to form; decant liquid and quickly rinse crystals with dry acetone. purchases. Return pill mass to beaker and repeat step 6, except the time for soaking Freeze filtrate. Yields should range in the sixty titanium dioxide, Pseudoephedrine Hcl 240 mg wet paste. Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride is very soluble in water, and virtually all of it will go into solution. is by no means exclusive or exhaustive.