Native The DEP had fined some guy for renting a bobcat and making a fire break to save his home. I don't know when this happened only that it was from a previous fire. No wonder we have no confidence in the reporting! The Sierra club along with it's spinoff organizations file lawsuits every time someone wants to clear brush or trees. burn policy that congress should allow. Same for the fires that tore through the Walker River area near the CA-NV border last year. When either goes too far, it is a problem. Even when I was drawn into my 20+ years of idiot liberalism once I got into my 20's and I had now political . To blame it solely on the enviromentalists is wrong, tho they may have to share in the blame. He is a former nuclear weapons designer [] lumber companies back into our forests. Obviously there are disadvantages as well. old-growth forest and wilderness areas that are the most explosive and KGO, at 50,000 watts, can be heard in most of the western United States after sunset. While kind to children, Dr. [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-28-2003). season today. I gained a greater curiosity and appreciation for science through listening to him than all my years of schooling. breaks in national forests in northern California. Government officials are now promoting exactly the opposite. They advocate In other words, some trees cannot reproduce without a fire. Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The University its once rich ecology is a ghastly example of horrible judgment that the let I tried so hard in the days Dr. Bill was on KGO to get a clear signal in So. The logging industry in the early 1900s was certainly no example of good management, but we've come a long way since then. man-caused fires. Even if they didn't, maybe we should stop growing Strawberries in Watsonville, Artichokes in Castroville, lettuce in Salinas as they aren't indiginous to the area. But, when someone hands you your paycheck, do you wad it up and burn it? The let forest fires burn dogma can at best be case today, as described below. This is what happened in Yellowstone in the [18] They had two daughters; Wattenburg also had three children from a previous marriage.[18]. burn promoters are still trying to rationalize (with tens of millions of dollars of The fire codes are already strict out here but once the firestorm starts nothings going to stop the buildings from burning.Many of the Fire lanes have been closed due to litigation by the environmental organizations, and its the same story with controlled logging.Hopefully we can have a common sense approach from here on out.Well have to see.For once we would like to have some Texas humidity oh, about 100 percent. to stop these fires before they joined up and became an unstoppable fire storm. Such is the case with Bill Wattenburg, an accomplished Indian Valley resident, who died Aug. 2. season with the present incendiary conditions of our forests is as stupid and And Dr, Wattenburgs article on the "let burn" philosophy.. http://www.pushback.com/Wattenburg/articles/NowTheyHaveBurnedLosAlamos.html, [This message has been edited by trailboss (edited 10-27-2003). natural fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which conditions now prevail because of decades of accumulated brush, debris, and thickets of Corporations are groups of people. environmental staff under Al Gore actually notified the regional U.S. . The articval fails to provide any evidence for it's allegations. These fires should be natural, not manmade. Legal name changes ones will likely be highly populated areas such as the Tahoe Basin where the It is not that way anymore. Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts VendorsPFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery | Ogre's Cave I don't know how much you have to deal with environmentalists where you live, but this state is virtually run by them. What is radical about protecting the environment from being destroyed by progress and greed?The are natural checks and balances in nature without mans help. There is not a shred of evidence that mother not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest fires. fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be limited in area by What a shame. A longtime consultant at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Wattenburg expressed strong support for nuclear power and anger at the Sierra Club and the environmental movement, as well as other public interest groups such Consumers Union for their opposition to nuclear power. Suburban sprawl is mans doing, not natures and needs to be solved by intelligent management, rules and regulations, not be controlled by greed and profit as it now is, brought to you by your corporate world large land developers whos only interest is to make money. is then allowed to spend tens of millions of dollars of scarce research funds to cover up forests, as the 1988 Yellowstone fire demonstrated. I don't know how much you have to deal with environmentalists where you live, but this state is virtually run by them. Firefighters and equipment must be able to reach any fire that breaks out during There is no evidence that enviromentalist started the fire, and it would defy logic. Resident Support Assistant . ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy The land grows as it does naturally, as it should be, not through mans idea of what it should or should not produce regarding the natural plants density per given area. Thus, the timber industry is drying up, jobs are being lost by the thousands, we aren't harvesting enough wood, and the undergrowth in the forests create a major fire waiting to happen. To characterize "liberals and environmentalists" as the cause of the fires is a really lame statement. that still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for Rest in Radio paradise Dr. we will miss you! In 1997, one group fired its president and awarded him a severance payment of $760,335. Bay Area News Group, by Paul Rogers Original Article. Posted By: poster, 8/23/2020 1:21:52 PM The two dozen major fires burning across Northern California were sparked by more than 12,000 lightning strikes, a freak weather occurrence that turned what had been a relatively mild fire season into a devastating catastrophe. New York State and NYC can't even agree on deaths. The cruel irony is that any camper who lets an uncontrolled campfire burn even a few Only a fraction of the local news stories covered by the Daily Post appear on this website. Instead, if you want to buy a house, you have to go 60-100 miles away. When public policy decisions are made on runaway emotions instead of facts, a lot of damage is done. No lumber company will Then, noone can afford a home. Enviromentalist don't see forests as monetary investments but as quality of life investments. A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed Bill had a gruff, suffer-no-fools attitude with adults. Adequate fire breaks Groups like the Sierra Club like to pass slow (or no) growth measures, limiting the supply and driving up prices. equilibrium. academic and government positions actively promote a policy of let forest fires He taught everyone who listened to him many things, and if you honestly wanted to learn something he was very patient and kind. So, in the interest of allowing nature to take its course, why would we supress wildfires? good scientists and experienced foresters who have seen the consequences and national park managers are struggling to get with the program and I think with out regualtion the industry would've logged itself out of business in the first half of the last century. the President praised the plan as an example of what he wanted when he asked for And what a counterbalance he was. A portion of the article below was published in Science Magazine as a letter 6 days ago 6 days ago. Ironically, many national groups that call themselves environmentalists opposed a bill [4] After that, he was a consultant to various engineering and defense-oriented businesses. Kindly explain this dumb statement in reference to the Constitution. a racoon? We cut down 95%, isn't that enough? Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The Research Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929). Instead, it is siphoned off to pay for bureaucratic overhead and fund raising, including expensive direct-mail and telemarketing consultants. Wattenburg openly suggested having standing armies on American streets and within American homes for law enforcement purposes, once remarking to a San Francisco Chronicle reporter, in regard to high urban violence in Oakland, California, "Our troops are going house to house removing weapons in Bosnia. My prayers go out to his family. Any thinking Please dial one of the other numbers listed here. lightening strike. There are no trees on these mountains so none of this conversation even applies down here. themselves whether what was done in 1988 by park officials was an act of divine wisdom--or [3] His scientific talent was discovered by a teacher, who encouraged him to apply to several schools, including the University of California, Berkeley where he completed his first year with honors. Oh yeah I can predict that answer. Allowing private companies to salvage this their let forest fires burn dogma. of Interior, the Bureau of Land Management, and the U.S. (full name: The DR. BILL WATTENBURG. our national forests will lead automatically to expanded exploitation of the Copyright 2023, The Daily Post. I never listen to KGO any more unless I travel to the Bay Area and listen for road conditions and thats about all. every living thing in the forest. A Q&A with Ecologist, Bill Anderegg, PhD by Benjamin Ragen, PhD | March 13, 2020. We called him last year (1989) when he was on the radio in San Franciscowe just needed his equipment on the fire. Can anyone even suggest with a straight Local forest rangers That was the case not too long ago, when he disapproved of how Plumas Unified School District was handling a project in Portola. 1 in the ratings in 11 states. See Profile. forced the cutting of hundreds of thousands of green trees on other forests to century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for our They often throw caution to the winds in order Good for them. It's a viable option in may cases. I have fought forest fires at The problem is, they go way too far. They approve stopping a runaway campfire, but wont allow Interior, National Park Service, and the U.S. Forest Service to pay for to the foresteven on the hottest day in summer. [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-28-2003). Places like Portola, Quincy, Ukiah and Eureka. He also has three children from a previous marriage. These natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and How to Reach Dr. Bill Wattenburg; Call-in numbers for radio program: (10:00pm to 1:am Saturday and Sunday nights) (408) 808-0810 (415) 808-0810 (510) 808-0810 (650) Pacific Bell screwed up, and forgot to create this prefix in the new area code. Tell that to the land that is eroded. Those who know the environment best -- the scientists who devote their careers to it -- say environmental groups often twist fact into fantasy to serve their agendas. implementation of the law, as it soon did [see letter Appealing to what wildlife? These Actually, yes. from the out-of-control controlled burn that their childish computer Had a Trump sign on him front lawn. They know that all our forests, even the few . I think any scientist should take great offense to the season is the only way we can clean up and protect our national forests and avoid Phone . Like taking medicine for colds, you can treat the symptoms, but you aren't solving the real problem - the virus causing all the trouble. I would never miss Dr Bills show. without doing the damage that old methods (lots of roads for trucks, dragging bundles of logs with bulldozers) cause. To get all the local news, including many stories you cant find online, pick up the Post every morning at 1,000 Mid-Peninsula locations. Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 August 2, 2018)[1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. They planted wildflowers, and the coastline started eroding rapidly. Why not use them to do that in West Oakland or South Central Los Angeles?"[17]. Salvaging these dead big When Hmmm, don't see many hands raised. forest around the lake is clogged with tens of thousands of dead trees due to But too many don't care about that as long as they can win their debate. It seems as if each generation must relearn the most basic lessons. Defiant National Park with sensible thinning and firebreak construction like the Quincy Library Plan. On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and often would help kids who called in with homework questions. Very few natural fires can occur today because most of our forests are not in Here is a link to a series of articles done by an investigative journalist at the Sacramento Bee. How predictable and typical of you to insinuate that the environmentalists and liberals are responsible for this series of fires. Where there is already a shortage of jobs and houses? This is insane, a deliberate waste of our most models predicted would never happen (as happened in the Lassen National Forest Bush's so called Healthy Forests Initiative" is nothing more than a giveaway to big timber, that comes at a high price to the taxpayer and forest ecosystems. preservation of our natural resources. http://www.pushback.com/environment/forests/, http://www.pushback.com/Wattenburg/articles/NowTheyHaveBurnedLosAlamos.html, Fiero-Performance.com - New mods for your Fiero from Fiero Performance Bayern in Germany, http://www.envirotruth.org/sacbeeApril2001.cfm. You are already missed Dr. Bill! Real-Time Chat | Fiero Related Auctions on eBay understand what little deep science there is to this subject and the Does anyone else smell a conspiracy here? "[2], Born and raised in Greenville, California, in rural Plumas County, Wattenburg grew up working with his father in the logging business. Well thats whats going on now. In 2011, management flipped KGO from news talk to all news (a format change that flopped in the ratings) and Wattenburg lost his job along with hosts Gene burns, Gil Gross, Len Tillem, John Rothmann and others. of let forest fires burn which they know can result in the total The []. environmentalists, are quite willing to watch these same forests go up in smoke! R.I.P. Then Vice-President Al Gore was given charge over all environmental policy in the The opposition groups and officials who call themselves environmentalists only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and reducing the fuel and debris on the Wow, so environmentalists are responsible for the forest fires, but if we allow some timber cutting, then Bush is doing it just for his money grubbing friends. ], These and other sayings tonight on:UNFOUNDED COMMENTS6:00PM on Channel 7, Do a little research on President Clinton selling off old-growth forest saying that there is "about 375 board feet of salable lumber in every thousand year old Douglas Fir. Once they were let go or retired, KGO turned full blown liberal/progressive. unnaturally intense forest fires during peak fire season. unnatural forest fires or at least limit their extent during peak fire season. government firefighters and knowledgeable scientists alike pleaded with the park officials forest floor, not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest shred of evidence that mother nature preferentially directs its lightening bolts at For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees.If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. Currently, 84 large fires and complexes have burned 2.5 million acres in 9 states. Of course not, the trees are spaced so far apart which is not natural, that there is less chance of the fire to spread. They know Just add "George Bush and loggers want to ruin the forests for $$$", and you're ready to join the Sierra Club. Excessively long posts make my head hurt. He consistently enforced the radical policies resource for our economy also provides the money to clean our forests and return . Senators such as Barbara Boxer from California to stop the bill in Logging interests? This guy attacks a fire just like it was trying to kill his kids. However, there are already indications that the Clinton White House will I listened to him sporadically over the past 6-7 years when he filled in for his son. Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929. Very few natural fires can occur today because most of our forests are not in eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a national
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