I think this is SO true . It was helpful all of your comments about the rest of composite houses and I say Thank you again for this Thats for start. Much depends on the relationship of the 12th house planets to one another. Mercury in the first is a good aspect to have because of the communication involved and the ability to think clearly regarding the relationship. Neptune tries to tell us that we cant own anything permanently, and if we try to possess and not understand the message of universal love (love is its own reward) it will pry our grasping fingers off of whatever we are trying to hold on to. The lesson they teach is that we do not have to possess love in order to experience it. Composite Pluto in the 12th House With Composite Pluto in the 12th house, you may struggle over power and control in ways that aren't obvious. Oh wow, Im glad to be reading this after the fact. Its the last chance to get it right, and there will be a struggle to use this planets positive expression easily. Of course, this can lead to overspending and a tendency to overvalue anything that is overindulgent and impractical, but the positive energy Jupiter brings will generally get you through it. You may struggle with understanding your emotions and cannot express them in a healthy way. In Astrology, the planet Venus represents compassion, cooperation, beauty, and the Arts. (Or so we believe, those of us who deal in astrology.) We talk with each other and I know he loved me and still does like me , we talk in the church when we can but none of us really telling the real story (which is so 12 house thing). Either the energy of the planet is lost, confused, diffused and (at least in our early years) ineffective, or the planet can completely embody its archetype for all to see, often after overcoming great difficulties and reversals, sometimes in extreme circumstances. You are interested in psychology, religion, spirituality too. Again, sadly, this being the 12th, most of the time the lesson is learning to love and then let go. I do all these within a synastry consulation. I live a bliss and despair relation for about 2 years but definite we are totally different persons than before met each other (we are old enough!). Our ascendant is also pisces but our Uranus-Venus opposite position makes lots of deals in our relationship besides the 12th and 6th house. Haunting It has left a hole in my heart, (composite chiron conjunct asc) and I suffered from insomnia regretting I should or shouldnt have done. Please forgive me, there are much to read and ask, Your inputs will be very much appreciated. Neptune causes us to turn our other into gods. We were happy plutonicay together. Unable to forget it? Any advice would be helpful. do you have any clue of what this means or should i just ignore it? The composite chart is probably the best known. Thank you very much for the answer. If the fears arent dealt with (and the fears include loss of all kinds), it can get projected and the world itself can become the enemy. People who fight for justice for others often have Juno prominent in the chart. Guess our trines from Sun/Moon to Jupiter arent enough to off set. In my experience, if you have a good synastry but a difficult composite, the couple get along with one another but have problems establishing the relationship in the outside world. We all have things we come in to this life to accomplish, achieve, or learn. A share a composite chart with a stellium of planets (Sun, Mercury, Uranus, and Neptune) in the 12th house with cusp on Scorpio. I am a strong 12th houser myself and it meant so much to me that we could live together and I never felt my precious solitude was infringed upon. Thank you, Dawn. When transit Uranus is in the composite 12th house, you may make changes together but quietly behind the scenes, with no one watching. Wow, everything in this article is so accurate + written so beautifully. My life seems to cycle in and out of being able to bring that 12 house/Neptune energy into the everyday world. Transit Neptune in the Composite 12th House. Hello dawn Dear Dawn, I just see now, that accidentally I typed wrong Your name! me and this guy who dont know each other properly have same ascendants and house cusps natally. This will tell you the energy sounding the ending. Written in 12thouse Neptunian mystique and eloquence (I have never done anything like that with anyone else.) This position can show one person makes all of the sacrifices and the other person takes everything . The 12th house is the culmination of all that has come before itits our last chance, our last ride, and planets there can often go to extremes without knowing why (they can blame it on the limitless nature of Pisces, which respects no boundaries). If we do things out of fear or for security, and we dont listen to the call to step onto our proper path in life, we are serving the ego instead of the soul. Please enlighten me.. Usually, when the 12th house is heavily involved, whether it be a natal chart, a comparison, or a composite, the message is to let go. composite moon and saturn are in fifth house. In my experience, the Davison chart reveals more of the day to day reality, and the midpoint chart reveals the inner working dynamic. Thrown/compelled into a private relationship that feels confusing and unavoidable at the same time. More, we have a 5 cluster Scorpio in 9 (Moon, Venus, Neptune, Jupiter and Mercury), a composite Sun in Sag in 10, with Pluto and Uranus conjunct in 7 and unaspectted Gemini NN in 4 we also have a lot of 6/12 house contacts in synastry and 21 conjunctions (far from being easy!) The 12th house really gives you an opportunity to see behind the veil in such a powerful and beautiful way, to understand not only our existence in this lifetime, but our collective reason and the inner workings of the universe itself and the karmic bonds that we have formed with soul family that have traveled this journey with us for many many lifetimes. The Composite Sun Through the Houses. I met this men who i recall seeing 20 years ago once and a couple of other times within that 20 years. !.the telepathy is overwhelming me. I still remember very clearly how I felt 10 years ago when I first met my former boyfriend. any input would be greatly appreciated!!! I live in a kind of constant daydream /illusion of being near my beloved ghost I know this is not truth , but I dont know how I could do without. But someone who tells you they love you every day and tries to break up with you every month is clearly not. There is a certain someone whose natal Sun is in the 12 th, his sun also receiving a natal square from his Neptune. Sometimes the ego gets in the way of our path, whether through fear, resistance to growth, resistance to break old habits and personal tendencies, or through a lack of interest in what is wanted of us. Also my moon is conjuct to his sun both ways. The eight house is the house of Scorpio, and alongside the twelfth house is the most spiritual and mysterious. I became reacquainted with a man I grew up with. Beginning to look at our Composite Chart and come to find a Moon and Mars Conjunction in Leo 12th House. I am a strong 12th house person- the sun in Libra conjunct Pluto/Mercury in Scorpio, with Saturn in Scorpio widely conjunct my Scorpio ascendent (I told you I was intense) and he has no planets in the 12th. The weirdness of the 12th usually happens when one or both of the other parties has a heavy 12th influence in the natal. So sad! Saturn and Uranus both have a lot to say about Aquarius. I cant really comment without seeing the charts. This year in April we were introduced to each other by our mates. Neptune is in the 4th, Libra. venus+mars, etc. Thanks! I am a pisces sun, mercury, mars. in the 12th house, you might be safe in assuming that there was a marriage or long-term relationship in a past life. They might be very sneaky and test people a lot. Most of it is illusions I know.. 3) Angles in the houses & aspects. So beautifully written Dawn. What is your thought on this. It often helps to work together on projects they find meaningful, or to spend some time doing community or charity work. Hi ameNow were talking about the differences between the Davison and the midpoint charts, and thats really too complicated a topic to go into here. Anything different there? Could I ask Your opinion? Is this why I am feeling this more? Im afraid I cant get into it in this space (in the synastry course, we spend several lessons comparing the midpoint and Davison charts). VENUS IN HOUSE TWELVE Venus in the 12th house cultivates a spiritually profound form of love and a desire to experience love on a higher level. what kind of compassion do you think can be generated from a composite mars in 12th house? We have (taurus) mars-venus conjunction on the 12th house and it is so real in our life: we need so strong the deep intimacy and the so close physical and spiritual nearness together, and it is better for us to be alone together for our happiness. However, with so much 12th house a individuals, and then as a couple, can there be something more than We are fated, but we are meant to part. I read your article and its really touching! We feel it has a nebulous, yet mysteriously powerful influence on our lives when we have planets there, even though we cant quite fathom the type of influence it wieldsare we being seduced to a precipitous cliff by external forces, or are the demons within driving us to the edge? (Because the moon's orbit is elliptical, it has two center . My husband and I, have composite Saturn 27 Pluto 28 Libra in 12th, forming a T square to our Sun 26 Cancer and Venus 19/Mercury 23 Capricorn. With Libra in 12th House, your past life may not be that pleasant. Our midpoint composit cannot show any true about our relationship. Pluto is elevated in the composite chart close to the midheaven in the 9th. Im so confused by this mix! Great gifts are possible if that Saturn is respectedthe power of manifesting energy into form. But the problem with Neptune and XII house synastric connections, is that illusions seem to possess not your brain, but your flesh and soul. And now we come to the house that causes more furrowed brows than any other. My concern is a grand trine in the composite chart, Mercury/Jupiter/Venus all conjunct in the 1st (pisces) trine Moon/North node conjunct in the 5th (cancer) and Neptune the chart ruler in the 9th (Scopio). Lilith may help 12th house to bring their subconscious patterns to light, or do the opposite and evoke more fear. Both of us are on a spiritual path, which is very important to each of us. Concentrate on intimacy and you should be all right. I wouldnt say that one is more important than another. I feel like I never want tk part from this man. And this is where we must reach out beyond our small lives to touch the greater life that is possible. i give it much meaning because i really feel a psychic connection and a karmic fate, but again that could be just me since i have a heavy neptune but nothing in my natal 12th. Found the site while trying to decipher a stellium in a composite 12th house. It contains everything and nothing . I have a nice syntrastry with my boyfriend (im born 8/1/1983 and he is born 10/7/1982). I dont want to lose this relationship too so I would like to help me to find out the karmic lesson. Those of us with composite 12th emphasized will be asked to step away from the mundane and step into the world of the extraordinary, where unlikely connections are day to day things. Natal Sun in Gemini and Venus in Cancer in the 12th, and Venus is conjunct my Cancer ASC. I read once if someones pluto is attached to his own north node that would mean if the person puts anything between himself and god he will loose it, because that is what Pluto teaches. And we both natally have same aspects, my mars is in my 12th and his moon is in his 12th also. Together we share a Mars 12th. (We also have some 4th and 8th house synastry with me as the planet person, and 3 planets in the composite 4th). We feel that very beautiful in our life! Look at what sign the 12th house is in. I have a 12th house Capricorn stellium and my husband and I also have a composite 12th house Capricorn stellium. We are ignoring what the Source is asking us to do. Once they have hammered out their imbalance (too little, too much is often a theme with the 12th) they must find a way to make something real of their inspiration. We met 3 months ago, and live 300 miles apart. We are from different countries and we live bliss for few moments and then a lot of despair and pain separated without any logic A tough road between Heaven and Hell! but thats life afterall! They usually experience issues with drugs or alcohol. Similarly, the 4th house is used for Gemini, and information is extracted by reading it in the Natal charts. Because, of Saturn and Pluto? Juno in the 12th means that there are unresolved issues surrounding equality in relationship and some sort of sacrifice in relationships will be necessary in order to discover that balance. . And they might move next year to another town because of their son so I am already dying from the thought that I will not see him after that. At all. *Also in synastry- my Vesta conjunct NN in Gemini are the degree right before his Ascendant. Transit Saturn in the Composite 12th House. Composite Houses, I'll begin, of course, with the Ascendant and the first quadrant of the chart. The synastry can show the true about our relationship, and the Davison also but less than synastry, but the Composite chart can show almost nothing.