She is a D-FW native with a B.A. Mother of Sarah and Amina Said calls Yaser Said 'the devil' after a Dallas jury found him guilty. Patricia Rorrer is as guilty as sin, and she needs to stay right where shes at. It was a very big shock to see to know that she was still alive. They moved into her house in Salisbury County, staying together for about two years. This article seems to have a great many errors and omissions, more by design, I fancy, than a need to tell the story objectively. Joanne and Alex didnt disappear until 12/15. A person tried in a court of law and then found guilty is not the be-all and end-all to the case. And the point the hair in her hand wasnt tested was because they didnt need it since they had the killer shame on everyone who went along with that. I really never thought of it again.. The Dallas County jury returned a guilty verdict on Tuesday following about three hours of deliberations at the end of the six-day trial. At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. And when Patricia was taken into custody where they removed 39 hairs with root, and then all of a sudden after the FBI report say that the hair tested had NO ROOT ATTACHED, the hair tested had a root? Bob Kopta said that his wife had mental health issues and had spoken of going to the warm climate of the island. Did they ever determine cause of death in the baby? Highly charged case. The difference between the cases was that the child was not injured and the individual wrote down the details of the plan in a notebook, but otherwise it seems extremely similar to me. Joann Katrinaks Killer Still Has Innocence Advocates(A Woman Scorned, Forensic Files). Whats worse is that shes innocent. Quote if I had known I would get caught, I would never have brought you into this world. Pat to Nicole her daughter. SHAME ON THEM. It was her father, Yaser Said who committed the crime of killing his two innocent teen daughters. The missing hairs probably got destroyed in testing.. thats how they test them.. and reports are wrong all the time. (Disclaimer: Im not a big fan of eyewitnesses who come forward years after the fact, but its possible). He gave an audio interview to the Wrong Man investigators when they made a surprise visit to his house, but he declined to appear on camera. Unbloody vehicle. Its sad that some people just cant move on and continue to feel that what they want is going to be THEIRS regardless. Patty was soooo obsessed with Andy that she moved away to North Carolina some 5 years before this happened, right? The girls mother, Patricia Said, fled with both girls in the week before their killings because she was in great fear of her life, police said. Rorrer killed two peoplea young mother and her small child and thru the justice system got what the bitch deserved! I think shes guilty for sure. in journalism from the University of Southern California. Some lawyers call microscopic hair analysis junk science that today wouldnt qualify as evidence in a trial like Rorrers. Interesting thought about the alibi timing. Together they had a baby girl, Nicole. so then using your contention, one who is deeply religious and sees God as being a factual figure is wrong? Watch Wrong Man season 2, and then come back and make comment. (Nope. Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. Another former boyfriend said she talked about Andrew frequently and liked to gaze at old photos of him. Clearly, there are a lot of irrational people out there. Narcissistic and violent tendencies are very common. But I agree with a recent comment.. Why not do a paternity case so just that is done and out of the way. According to William G. Kelley, director of the Law Offices of the Orange County Associate Defender, Patricia did not receive a fair trial. Allen and Patricia Prue were arrested two days after Jenkins' death. . And she will have to answer eventually. Hoist by your own petard. I was so excited that I called everyone, and Joanne picked up the phone and she said Andy is married, and I said I know, then she said we have a baby, and I said yea I know, then she said dont ever call here again. I was told they wanted to convict Lawrence Slaughter and not my sister.. The teens were found shot multiple times in a cab outside an Irving motel after one of them called 911, saying she was dying, authorities said. There was also forensic evidence, obviously planted by them crooked cops, according to defenders. He says he "feared for his life" and left the girls in the cab alive as he ran away. If in the woods in a rural area, no animal, rodent or insect touched those bodies? Until next time, cheers. 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However, while sticking solely to the Rorrer case, the issue of the husbands alibi is very much open to doubt if one takes into consideration what the documentary, STARZ-The Wrong Man (in two parts) has revealed. All my comments have been vetted and approved by this sites organisers so how do you see yourself as the judge of whats acceptable or not? And shes were so happy. I thought the justice system in my state and the people were narrow-minded and corrupt. If that really is the case, the husbands alibi for a date months before becomes irrelevant. The Free Patricia Rorrer page responds to comments from supporters (How is this even possible that this woman is still in jail?!? One more thing acquire ALL the facts about this case If you can read. In summer, after thawing, there will be small animals eating the body and even turkey vultures, but not so much in the winter. There is so much in your comment with which I can take issue, but Ill try to keep to the salient points. If there was more talk about finding this .22 mm gun then that would solve all of this speculation. She said that shes no fan of Forensic Files and that the show had many misrepresentations about her case and that shed heard ForensicFilesNow.com mixed up some facts as well. She wanted all men to give her attention but she couldnt have everyones attention, especially ANDREWS!!! Women murder for all kinds of reasons, but the simple facts come down to this.there was physical evidence, the bullet wound matched that of the gun Pat owned, the hairs were Pats and at both scenes, and she had no alibi and she had lied to try and come up with one.and lets not forget the damning words she spoke to her 18 month old daughter that the officer had the common sense to document. Have a tip we should know? "I'm not sorry we were caught. I most definitely will not personally afford Patricia a platform, Michael said in an email to ForensicFilesNow.com She had her chance to answer my questions and tell her story in court over 20 years ago. Joann would have fought for her life the person that did this would have had marks on them from a fight! Its nothing short of a feeble stab hoping to impress but really amounts to splitting hairs, or to put it another way, hot air with no substance. Throughout the process, she heard many community members waiting for the proceedings to be over. She made an effort to look perfectly groomed even when she took out the trash, according to her mother, who appeared on Forensic Files. The women testified last week. Not sure why anyone is defending her. Why is this even a question, why people are trying to take out killers into society? The fact that Joanne was found with a hair clutched in her hand that was inconsistent with both her and Patricia (that they conveniently didnt bother to test). First it was winter, cold temperatures preserve bodies for significantly longer periods. This was a horrible and brutal double murder and whoever did it needs to be locked up forever. The woman who was showing the home alleged that Patricia was involved in the theft. She held up pictures of her dead daughters. The authorities charged her with two counts of murder. "You can keep those evil eyes glaring just glare away because this is going to be the last time that you see me.". Im sorry Sally, I know you want someone to blame for the death of your daughter and grandson, but the person who actually killed her is serving a life sentence in another facility in Pennsylvania. Just saying. Watching Reasonable Doubt right now hope they also find that she did it. They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. There is a term in law called balance of probabilities, which basically means that guilt is assigned when there is a preponderance of evidence that would lead a rational person to conclude that the person did it. I wanted to get out of there.. If I see anything that offers a differing opinion or is inaccurate, I think its entirely fair I should say my piece. Which, for this very reason, is at present being investigated by a federal judge? You seem to have a fragile ego. A Florida mother, who allegedly lied to police that her son with autism was abducted by two black men, was charged with the child's murder, police said. She hasnt, she didnt get a hard enough sentence. During the trial, the prosecutor said that the insurance reward would have been $180,000, which was totally exaggerated, said Arletta Wright, Patricias sister, who has been championing Patricias innocence from the beginning of Patricias time in prison. What a contrived case! Hardly an argument, more a figment of your overconfidence in your opinion. Have you read the book? After the guilty verdict was pronounced, the defense learned that a report from a state psychologist was not given to the jury. Finally, another irony you fail to appreciate: you claim theres money to be made from the commercials added into their show. On Instagram, I found a post for a two-part Win at All Costs podcast featuring journalism professor Bill Mousheys interviews with Patricia Rorrer from prison in December 2019. No activity on her bank account or credit cards took place after the day she went missing, so investigators dismissed the theory that she took her child and bolted. Suzanne Pearson fabricated quotes from Patricia including her claim that Patricia said, Im going to the electric chair upon her arrest because a conviction would boost Pearsons career. Theyre just not willing to investigate/research as to the truth. Susan Wright is out of prison after killing her husband in TX. And while youre on that list, you can be happy in the knowledge youre not in rarefied company. Even after 12 years of frustration and dead-ends, the pursuit for their killer never ceased, Spivey said in a statement. I do. A Pennsylvania woman who went missing more than 30 years ago in a case that stumped authorities who later declared her legally dead has been found living in a nursing home in Puerto Rico. But because there is no author of this page, I would like you to contact me on the Free Patricia Rorrer facebook page. I agree. It was total shock. And she would just call out of the blue., According to the Free Patricia Rorrer page on Facebook:I called him to let him know that I was going to the USA finals for a horse show. She was the one that left Andy! That woman has no soul. It was Patricias hair no question. She was wrongfully convicted.. Search it out and check for yourself. Her husband, Mark McCloskey, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor fourth degree assault and was fined $750. Her jealousy and rage because Joann told her to not contact her husband set her off. I find it weird that youre going to kill a woman just because she hung up on you and maybe tell you some shitty world because you call like an ex. The fact that her jeans were unbuttoned and unzipped. of course they all do it to make money only, some of them do it shamelessly, without the slightest attempt to be fair and honest. And dance instructor William Jarrett couldnt remember whether she attended his dance class at the club the night of Joanns disappearance. State police and the Philadelphia division of the FBI appealed to the public for leads. Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. But let me say in my defence, I have not attacked anyone on this particular site with outright rudeness, to which you allude, albeit some of them deserved a retort of some substance. All rights reserved. Why bother with this site, which isnt for professional criminalists/forensic scientists, if youre going to get so tetchy and rude? His favorite rattle, shaped like a phone, lay near the crime scene. Lawrence Slaughter is currently serving a life sentence in Calipatria State Prison for the murder of Jerome Scott as well. Liesbeth Powers/The And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded.. Have you read the book? She was bubbly and likable, not disgruntled, according to friend Kathy Barber, who visited her friend in jail. Blasczyk said she is pleased with the outcome of the case. On Aug. 31, 2011, at 11 a.m., Wrights family, the Action Committee for Women in Prison, and the FACTS community and supporters gathered in front of Gov. A federal jury found Yassein Abdulfatah Said, 59, guilty on one count of conspiracy to conceal a person from arrest, one count of concealing a person from arrest and one count of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding. Your position Ive read a lot, Im right; you disagree with me, Ill say youre a moron. Patricia and her husband broke up after the babys death. Oh wait, sorry, you werent there. Dance defense. She had a history of violence over men, and she had access to the dump site from frequent visits. You should be ashamed of yourself. When she was there, she refused to discuss her private life or where she came from.. His defenders claimed that the confession was coerced, the video was grainy/unclear or doctored and the witness was confused and/or unreliable. I dont think so. I also communicated with Patricia via email to get her input on some matters. Interesting points thanks for writing in (and, yikes, those poor deer that starve to death). Ms. You murdered your girls," she said. Prosecutors said Said, a native of Egypt, was angry that his daughters were dating and that the boys were not Muslim. Dont even think about arguing with me until they DNA test that hair and the broken fingernail found on her body; Ill just laugh at you. Black said she was glad Said took the witness stand, giving her the chance to poke holes in his story, exposing him to everyone who has been watching this case. Roughly nine months ago, Interpol contacted the police department that kept her file open. Patricia Owens called her ex-husband Yaser Said the devil for allegedly murdering their two daughters at his trial in Dallas on Aug. 4, 2022. At the states request, the instructor wore a wire during a phone conversation with Patricia. Still, no good leads materialized. Shes extremely, extremely happy with the baby. The fact that previous boyfriends noted her obsession with Andrew is very, very telling. Tragedy also touched Patricias life. DALLAS Yaser Said, once listed as one of the most wanted men in America, has been found guilty of killing his two teenage daughters. Yaser Said's ex-wife Patricia Owens gives victim statement after guilty verdict Mother of Sarah and Amina Said calls Yaser Said 'the devil' after a Dallas jury found him guilty. Rorrer is as guilty as OJ Simpson. A Pittsburgh-area woman missing for over 30 years and declared legally dead several years ago has been found alive in Puerto Rico, authorities in Pennsylvania said on Thursday. Its perfectly understandable that one should feel sorry for the victims of this heinous crime. A knife and the clothing worn by the victim potentially had all of the answers that would have led to the real murderer, but that evidence was destroyed by the LAPD. My husband passed away of a broken heart, Sarah OConnor said on the Montel Williams Show in 2001. But Im sure that was just a coincidence LOL. But none of those charges ever stuck. Even if there were some minor flaws or discrepancies in the investigation, thats normal. She will be in jail for the rest of her life and rightly so. Read the crime and public safety news your neighbors are talking about. Andrew also stated that when Pat called and Joann answered she had instructed her not to call again because they were married and they were happy.