And people scoffed at Dynafit for pulling the rad 2.0 from retail this season. ... Mark King Pin has serious problems that Marker does not dare to feel but pretends to be completely uninvited before. Hey Lou what do you know about all the breaking Marker Kingpins? They just don’t know how many bindings are affected. Lots of skinning and steep skiing. I totally agree, Lou. Lou, are they inserting these pins via shrink fit? I like many of you have high expectations of this binding. Another thing is that companies have to be very careful not to do something that breaks the Consumer Product Safety Commission Rules. Those downhill benefits come with a weight and touring performance penalty. Having an extra toe piece different than you have on the other foot can adjust a lot of variables. Ben, yeah, Davidoff posted a copy of something that was already on the web, with little to no information about where it came from, or the situation behind it. Dynafit has had their issues to and I don’t want to go into any bickle bucket in Alaska and bring up old news that is no longer current to what we are talking about. Sunday 1 February a good week later and still not having heard from REI, I returned to the downtown Seattle REI store. I went back to my dynafits after noticing my Kingpins were breaking, ONYL thru the fortune of literally bumping into someone who saw me riding them and directed me to your sight. In fact, thanks to Lou Dawsondrawing attention to the pins falling out, that’s one thing you can count on not failing … I have experienced about a 50% failure rate with the original production toes. I have this issue on my kingpin 13 too.. Only skied 2 days of soft Norwegian west coast goodness.. 3 out of the 4 pins visibly affected. People put themselves out there more in a no fall situation than any other product in skiing. Gear Review: Marker Kingpin Ski Binding - SnowBrains. I guess it’s resort tours and taking real eeeeasy until… Well they “hopefully” fail. My Marker Kingpin 13’s failed this afternoon. The difference between the “improved/fixed” binding and the original is easily visible (photos above). For most backcountry skiers, our deeply experienced test team recommends a lighter option like either Editors' Choice winners. I received my replacement toe pieces about 4 days later. $184.00. Has anyone heard anything from Marker yet? Are you around Skt Anton next week Lou, stand you a Weissbier if you are. Forgot to mention that i´m from Sweden. I would have never noticed this issue with my binding until it might have been too late. The alpine heel piece creates release "elasticity" and lends downward and forward pressure to your ski boot. I decided that they still need to be either fully locked or 1 click away from locked to ski aggressive terrain. Has anyone here received the updated toe pieces in the US or Canada? It’s possible this was just an “in-line” color change and means nothing… Lou. Or, is skiing the binding 6 times proof that your particular pair are not defective? So on Thursday I returned my bindings (Kingpin 13) to the retailer. It allows you to tour flat-footed, includes two levels of heel rise, and has toe-piece range of motion that should do all you need to do. Just stating what I heard from the US. But in this case in my opinion the case of pins working out should be near zero chance, not 1%. Going by the circles (clock style) on the underside read left to right the toes are G,1,15. Just thought I’d weigh in with both the positives and negatives. After one day of touring and one day at Mammoth over the long weekend, I noticed that two of the pins on my new Kingpin 10s were working their way inboard. They moved the machine to another facility and it didn’t get calibrated and this is where the problem bindings were produced. Understand that this style of backcountry ski binding is quite specialized and you will only realize the benefits of these beefy backcountry bindings if you ski the out-of-bounds with park rat or big mountain movie star style. I just picked up my new toes and it is very obvious they are the new type (Norway). Let us know! Lou, But always in pairs, either both heels or both toes. I was skiing with a G3 athlete that had not seen the Kingpin. legal BS is my guess. I’m still holding out in the hopes of get an updated replacement Kingpin toe piece and use them this spring. Thus, I suspect the way this is being handled might have something to do with that. It means there are probably bindings out there of the “1st generation” pre-retail that won’t have the problem. Given it has he same mounting pattern within the brand is good, I’ve mixed heels from one brand with another brand of toes. Thanks Lou for clarifying and explaining. Just saw the new pics. Whatever, my WildSnow.com Obewhanskinoobi recommendation is if you bought Kingpings, get the toes swapped, period. Sure, you could PERHAPS run Kingpin with the toe from a Radical or Plum, but you’d have no idea what the lateral release values would be, the ramp angle would probably be messed up, you’d have no warranty, and it’s possible the setup might not even work due to how the Kingpin heel deals with ski flex, and more. / May I ask if you did some touring around Altenmarkt? I just feel bad for all the skis out there that will be un-skied for a time or have extra holes from a mid-season binding swap. With the concern over the toe pins of the Kingpin, I’m curious if the concerns of them coming loose should rule them out of my consideration? I was expecting this to happen, and am not shocked. I hope Lou digs deep into the complete misrepresentation to the consumer market. Lead test editor Jediah Porter transitioning the KingPin on Teton Pass, Wyoming. Lou. Considering around 175,000 pairs of ski touring bindings (mostly tech bindings) are sold each year, worldwide. I am not waiting for the new toe pieces to be delivered—back to the tried and true dynafits for me. Marker Kingpin 13 100 Ski Binding Adults. that the pre-retail bindings are probably ok and were properly tested speaks in behalf of marker (just cause they in fact probably DID the proper testing and the problem occured afterwards). It seems obvious now, but I just had a eureka moment. 100% Satisfaction Guarantee. — 184 Volkl k\Katana V-Werks This model offers almost as much touring efficiency as the other tech bindings. Happy to report some toes have been replaced. I don’t know what foot that ski was on when I crashed… I don’t know if the pin came out during the crash, or after. Raised that topic in another blogpost but in fact it belongs to this one and I have another question: @Jordan. So, I’m happy to say your dealer is correct. They were set on DIN 7.5, which, after a more thorough consultation of the DIN calculator was perhaps a bit too high. Hard to say what forces dislodge these pins uniformly like that in what one thinks would be a vice like counter force. It stinks of usual corporate crap you come to expect these days, but is nevertheless infuriating when you pay full retail to sort out their shoddy manufacturing and quality control for them. Give it 48 hours for a response and a solution. No pre-releases! Ion reverses the direction of the cap screws, and utilizes what appears to be a metal strap to tie the front of the heel piece together. I never skied them but there was no way I was going to mount them on brand new Moment Exit Worlds and ski them with this well know issue. Mine were pre-ordered from a German shop a few months ago and shipped 2 weeks ago so are surely new stock. Let’s just say it’s good the pin popped instead of bone tissue. All but one original pairs of toes have been shipped. Skiing is a dangerous sport. So is Marker saying anything yet? My skibrakes seem to have differences in width – they do not clamp the skis together enough. It is this weight difference that mainly edges the Tecton ahead in the Top Pick race. $189.99 $ 189. than the Radical? does anyone have a direct contact for Marker in Germany? I know everyone is jonesin to ski these bindings but, I would ere on the edge of caution in use and terrain. I’m looking forward to Marker resolving this and getting to go Beat on them. This increased safety feature got people listening and it helped spawn the new Tecton 12. Over the years I have found boundless examples and it doesn’t seem to be getting any better. A defect is indeed a defect. I’d like people to realize over the last twenty years, we have seen a lot of innovation and a lot of replication of the original design. Personally I do not feel anything other than a full recall will be acceptable. It’s one thing to prepare for the unknown…but this doesn’t feel the same. But I have to admit: I am not sure if the kingpin has been released only in english speaking countries till know anyway.. ? The potential safety issue is related only to 2017/18 models of the Kingpin 10 and 13 pin tech binding. If you want to remain anonymous here in public that’s ok, just send us a contact using the menu above, stating that you placed a comment. They are a great web retailer I have bought a lot of stuff from over the years but it seems lists like theirs are just getting longer and longer, not only on their website but others. And the German speaking market is not small (Germany, Austria, Parts of Switzerland), And really, I can´t believe that this “show season” delays marker from doing the right thing. Point taken Wyoming, perhaps I’m being a little to easy. I mean, isn´t now the time to set priorities?Maybe skip a show or withdraw a guy from the show so he could take care of the problem? Another SkiAlper Magazine Teaser — Bindings! Well, I answered my own question by going to Marker’s website, and there is a difference between the 10 and 13 toe. The large AFD on one of my brakes has ceased to freely move left and right and now doesn’t return to center after being displaced. I’ve been moaning about the marketing hype surrounding this binding for a long time. by the time they get to Western Canada they are more travelled than the owner! Luckily I have a good local shop that offered to ‘fix’ the issue. Markers done a fine job and I don’t think we should be throwing them under the bus yet. Standard ski injury. not obvious to me on the pictures. How can we improve GearLab? Overall, other products definitely perform better on our scoring rubric. At 3 lbs 3 oz for the pair (1430g), this is one of the heavier tech bindings on the market and weighs in more than a pound heavier than either Editors Choice winner. This is not a problem that just happens, its a cycle issue, Marker could already have a fix in place, but you can be sure, Marker engineers are working on a solution. Hopefully this gets sorted out soon. So they invested in a new riveting machine and so far I have not heard in 2015 of any problems to those newer toes. Seems a little silly that at this point consumers can’t tell Marker what they think with their wallets vs a “what can I do and how long do I have to wait”. Toe pieces were sent to Marker for evaluation and possible replacement. They would or could not tell me to ski or not ski on the Kingpin or when or how to proceed to get a replacement toe binding. I myself would´nt know nothing about the issue if I wouldnt read wildsnow quite frequently. I am in no way thinking this is a good excuse for how they are handling this. 4 . My concern is primarily I look at tech bindings like carabiners. Other than the defective pins I have been loving them. HOWEVER. Affected are all Kingpin models with a new Marker Logo on the toe part and a golden or copper colour. Very obvious now for identification of improved binding. Once the ISO standards are made, that’s the death knell of radical innovation in my opinion. I can’t help thinking that other binding engineers probably considered and rejected that solution long ago, for some reason. Some times its real revolution and other times its fixing something that is breaking. I was in Revelstoke over the holidays and one shop worker told me they they pulled their Kingpins off the shelf after having three different pairs come back with this problem. I did absolutely no touring on mine and all but 1 pin was out of place. Tech bindings have traditionally offered safety release at the toe and/or heel, but the new Marker Kingpin is the first to meet DIN ISO 13992. and it was consumer repairable in the field. As Dynafit is comfortable replacing one toe, I’d say, they have done the math, but if you have issues in a function test, I’d be on the phone to warranty. For example, the demo bindings in South America last summer received a huge amount of use and not one of them developed this problem as far as I know. So keep that in mind. For those who have had the pins come loose, did you have issues getting your toe out of the binding when you wanted to get out of the binding? This is why have liked the setup of a Plum heel and a Dynafit toe. For a reality check, imagine we were talking about an avalanche beacon, and it was discovered that 1 out of 20 retail versions of the beacon had the batteries fall out after a bit of use, but there was no way to tell which beacon this would happen to.
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